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Fordson Model F Oil Pan Questions

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Machineryman

08-30-2001 20:48:47




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I have just purchased a 1923 Model F that has been setting in a barn for a number of years. Today, i drained the crankcase, and a lot of coagulated oil came out, plus maybe a half-pint of water. I refilled with kerosene and a quart of ATF, and plan to turn the engine over for an hour or so in the next couple of days with it belted to another tractor. Should clean out most everything. Should I remove the oil pan, and if so do I need to support the center of the tractor when I take the pan bolts out????

The other question has to do with a large plug, same size as the water washer plugs, that is located directly in front of the 1/2" pipe plug oil drain. I removed the large plug, and oil goop also came out, but when I poured some kerosene into the oil filler location, it only came out of the smaller plug and not the large plug opening. What is the large plug for???

Any help would be appreciated as I haven't received my manuals yet.

Machineryman

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Theman

08-31-2001 08:48:55




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 Re: Fordson Model F Oil Pan Questions in reply to Machineryman, 08-30-2001 20:48:47  
I too would recommend removing the pan as others have said. Blocking up the transmission is a good idea. It would be a great time to look over some of the internals and see if there is any rust inside. It will also help you understand the workings of the magneto/clutch area. I would also suggest you remove the tappet cover (long one behind the exhaust manifold) and check lifter movement and valve clearance. You will see a lot of crud in there too so don't be surprised. I found one of the keepers for the #1 exhaust valve inserted upside down in my '23 model F. It was causing the valve spring to push the valve stem crooked. The valve guide is now badly worn.

The big plug is to drain and clean the collection area for the dirtiest oil. The Fordson has a 'wet' multiple-disk clutch. It runs in the engine oil. This area is designed to trap the friction disk particles coming off of the clutch plates and keep them from being circulated back around the crankshaft and rod dippers. Your plan to flush out things by turning the engine over for an hour off and on is a good one. You won't fill up this collection sump until you spin the engine enough to splash it full again.

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Gary

11-14-2001 00:33:13




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 Re: Re: Fordson Model F Oil Pan Questions in reply to Theman, 08-31-2001 08:48:55  
I to got good information from your response. I have a 1920? F. Have read some but you helped me understand about the oil plugs. I want to know everything there is to know about the F's. Send me your Email address and maybe we can help each other.



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Andrew

08-30-2001 23:47:39




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 Re: Fordson Model F Oil Pan Questions in reply to Machineryman, 08-30-2001 20:48:47  
Hello,

Sounds like dropping the sump would be the way to go to be able to clean out all the sludge. As for the large plug I'm not sure. I'm more familiar with the English fordsons ( I'm in Australia). I would support the tractor with a screw bottle jack whilst removing the sump. You could also check the big ends while you're there.



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graytinker

08-31-2001 03:27:57




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 Re: Re: Fordson Model F Oil Pan Questions in reply to Andrew, 08-30-2001 23:47:39  
You might be all right if you flush out the crank case several times. If my memory is right there is four pooling pockets in the bottom of the crank case and they are off the bottom of the oil pan. The big nut is for removing sludge from the bottom if nothing comes out the big hole run a wire up through to see if there is any thing in there. You can also Remove the pan I would Block up the tran. And also block up the front of the tractor because the axel has to be moved down and be ready because it is cast iron and heavy. The gaskets are a thin brown paper materal like a brown paper bag. I hope I was of some help. Bill W.

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machineryman

08-31-2001 14:26:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Fordson Model F Oil Pan Questions in reply to graytinker, 08-31-2001 03:27:57  
Thank all for the information. Quite helpful. I'll get this beast going before too long.



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