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SMOKING FORDSON POWER MAJOR DIESEL

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Shane

10-15-2001 18:01:00




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Hi,
I was wondering if someone would have a quick or cheap fix for a smoking FPM. On start up the thing is almost engulfed in smoke and after a few minutes of usage, cleans up. I have only put probably 1 litre of oil in it in the last 2 years so I don't think it is an oil issue or maybe it is. I'm not sure. Can anyone give me some advice please.
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Regards Shane.




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Michael

10-18-2001 08:35:50




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 Re: SMOKING FORDSON POWER MAJOR DIESEL in reply to Shane, 10-15-2001 18:01:00  
I think it is possible that the "umbrellas" on the intake valves are cracked or missing and letting oil run down the valve stem and into the cylinders while the tractor is not running, then when you crank it up, the oil is burned off pretty quickly and it stops smoking. The amount of oil is insignificant but it's enough to make it smoke. I've seen that happen on a Super Major before. You should be able to smell the smoke and tell if it smells like burning oil or burning fuel to know which problem you should look for.

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Brian

10-17-2001 00:44:03




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 Re: SMOKING FORDSON POWER MAJOR DIESEL in reply to Shane, 10-15-2001 18:01:00  
Shane,

What colour is the smoke?

regards

Brian



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Shane

10-17-2001 17:59:53




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 Re: Re: SMOKING FORDSON POWER MAJOR DIESEL in reply to Brian, 10-17-2001 00:44:03  
Hello Brian,
The smoke is thick light grey, maybe white in colour.



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Brian

10-19-2001 01:37:48




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 Re: Re: Re: SMOKING FORDSON POWER MAJOR DIESEL in reply to Shane, 10-17-2001 17:59:53  
Shane,

You have all the possible answers to your problem from Micheal and Steven, its just a matter of choosing the right one.

The colour of the smoke makes me lean towards Micheal's thoughts as I would have expected the smoke to be dark or even black once she had run for a few seconds if over fueled by a faulty diaphram but anything is possible.

The manual also gives two other areas of possible problem. Timing and injectors, though again I would have expected the smoke NOT to clear after running.

Another possibility is under work. A diesel such as the Major likes to be worked hard not idled about. If you are doing a lot of light work this also could cause your problem.

Let us know what you find as we can all learn from these things.

regards

Brian

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norfolk mick

10-16-2001 15:10:09




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 Re: SMOKING FORDSON POWER MAJOR DIESEL in reply to Shane, 10-15-2001 18:01:00  
shane have you looked at the exess fuel button you may find that the button may be stuck in, or the diaphram perished



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Steven B

10-16-2001 21:47:30




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 Re: Re: SMOKING FORDSON POWER MAJOR DIESEL in reply to norfolk mick , 10-16-2001 15:10:09  
The most likley cause is a torn diaphram in the vacum govenor. This will cause over fueling. Remove the two pipes that run from the top of the govener up to the manifold (mark the pipes for correct re-instalation). Remove the govenor by removing the 4 bolts and inspect the diaphram. Make a note of how the backing plate is installed before taking the diaphram of the govoner rod. It will probably be split around one of the folds.

The diaphram is available from New Holland dealers.

The govenor works in the following manner.

On start up, the govoner is set to full fuel as there is no vacum. (Thats one of the reasons why Fordsons start so easy)

At low throttle aplications, a vacum is formed in the inlet manifold by the cylinders trying to "suck" air past the throttle buterfly. This vacum sucks the diaphram against its spring, this that is conected to the fuel rail in the injector pump, thus reducing the fuel flow.

As the trottle opens, the vacume is reduced and the diaphram alows the injector pump to supply mor fuel by opening the fuel rail.

When the diaphram splits, the fuel rail does not close off properly and hence the smoke.

The excess fuel devive does not overide the fuel rail at partial openings. If this was the cause the smoking would tend to be more eveident a full throttle.

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