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It Looks Bad, FSM

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Bill S.

06-04-2002 21:33:08




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Today I had a piece of old dead wood come up beside the engine, push the alternator upward and worse than that shear the pipe nipple off in the side of the block that has an oil gauge screwed onto it. I did not know this happened! After that I pushed a dead tree over then was repositioning the rig when I seemed to notice more black smoke so I started for the shop and got about 50 feet when it died. No unusual sounds either. From oil gauge nipple break to shut down was but 2 maybe 3 min. tops. This was not heavy loading work I was doing yet seizure occurred that soon. After cool down it's still tight. Does this seem unduly quick to anyone else? I've observed "destructive testing" where automobiles are driven 20+ miles without a drain plug intentionally having had no more than high quality motor oil in the sump. The loosened water pump belt didn't help either. On shutdown there was one "gurgle" and a belch of fluid from the non-presurized cooling system. No oil or combustion smell was detectable in the radiator. Tomorrow I plan to try to "bar it over" and see if it comes free then see how mortal the damage is. BTW, oil pressure had been excellent and all operations good. It did seem to be ready for valve stem seals, otherwise all was well. Do any of you have this kind of previous experience? If yes are there any "eye-openers" you can share? Thanks,
Bill S.

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Ronald S. Sagnip

06-05-2002 16:20:34




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 Re: It Looks Bad, FSM in reply to Bill S., 06-04-2002 21:33:08  
You might have a siezed bearing. If the engine will not turn over with the compression released then I suggest draining the oil, pulling the bottom cover and spraying it with a rust solvent like wd40 or liquid wrench, which should be thin enough to work its way into the main bearings around the crankshaft. If this doesn't loosen it up then you may have to loosen the bolts on the mains. If you try one at a time you might get lucky. I sent an email earlier but someone has sent me a worm virus-klez. I wanted to know if you were knowledgeable about The county supersix.

Ron,
New Egypt,New Jersey

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Bill S.

06-06-2002 17:23:06




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 Re: Re: It Looks Bad, FSM in reply to Ronald S. Sagnip, 06-05-2002 16:20:34  
Thanks Ron for the reply. Actually I have done nothing more since I wrote. I want to pull it up to the shop before getting serious. I cannot do the socket on the front due to a pump drive flange for the loader. No, I'm not the person that knows County Supersixes. You are not very far from where I am, in southern delaware, Gumboro to be exact. I'll update when I've discovered more.
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Bill S.

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Ronald S. Sagnip

06-06-2002 17:41:44




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 Re: Re: Re: It Looks Bad, FSM in reply to Bill S., 06-06-2002 17:23:06  
You might also try removing the inspection plate and lubricating it from there. Both of mine are loader backhoes. A bar through the coupling will allow you to rock it. Good luck



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Bill S.

06-08-2002 20:22:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: It Looks Bad, FSM in reply to Ronald S. Sagnip, 06-06-2002 17:41:44  
Ron,
Can't do all that. The FSM has no large inspection cover in the oil pan. When I get back at it the whole pan is not so hard to drop. The task of working around/over the loader frame is the hardest part. Thanks, Bill



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