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Doug

06-13-2000 08:35:52




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Carburetor loosened from engine block and engine stalled out. Have good spark and gas going into carb, but engine will not fire. Is it possible I blew a valve?? If so, how difficult would it be to replace it myself,or what is approximate cost to take it into a shop and have fixed?? Compression is not very good.




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doug

06-19-2000 06:12:07




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 Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Doug, 06-13-2000 08:35:52  
Thank you to all that replied. p, again thanks for your help and hope you got your engine running. Jim S- I followed your tree and eventually replaced the head gasket which was blown. I am now up and running and will cut the grass as soon as all this rain stops!!!



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Jim S.

06-15-2000 11:17:01




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 Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Doug, 06-13-2000 08:35:52  
Too easy a problem to find. Be sure the oil level is on Full before you start running down this tree:

1. Take out spark plug after cranking engine over a few times. Is it wet? Then you have fuel going in, which is good. Not wet? We'll get to that.

2. Put thumb over hole. Crank engine. Does thumb go "fwoop" as compression pushes it off hole? Then you needn't pull the head off it just yet. If thumb doesn't go "fwoop," get to pulling head cuz you got blown gasket and/or warped head (most likely), leaky valves (second most likely) or worn rings (you'd know cuz it'd burn oil bad).

3. OK on #2? Then get eye dropper or something like it and dribble a little gas in through plug hole. Short crank engine once to distribute gas, then replace plug and see if it starts or wants to start. Maybe it'll run for a second, then stop. If it does, problem is in carb or fuel delivery system.

4. If it does not start or try hard to do so, and you got the "fwoop" on the thumb compression test, you need to pull flywheel and replace a sheared key. Common problem on Briggs.

You should know what's wrong in 15 minutes if you follow this tree.

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chris ammon

06-15-2000 11:05:08




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 Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Doug, 06-13-2000 08:35:52  
Timeing is the problem the key on the fly wheel
it probably sheared if it is you can get one
at a dealer.



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Chris

06-15-2000 10:46:32




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 Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Doug, 06-13-2000 08:35:52  
timeing the key on the fly wheel is probly
sered



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big fred

06-13-2000 14:29:36




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 Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Doug, 06-13-2000 08:35:52  
Is this a horizontal shaft or vertical shaft engine? L-head or overhead valve?. They are all pretty simple to work on, biggest problem is working thru the rust and corrosion. If it is one of the aluminum block without the cast-iron cylinder liner, it would be cheaper to replace the engine than to pay someone to fix it, but you can still (maybe) come out ahead if you fix it yourself. I would recommend a run to your local library to look at a small engine book or two. You should be able to find some exploded views in them that will help out. Check the engine for a model number (probably something like 26X707) and type (a four digit number, perhaps followed by a -01 or something). Post the model and type and I'll check my B&S L-head book this evening.

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p

06-13-2000 10:55:23




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 Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Doug, 06-13-2000 08:35:52  
You might have stuck a ring. If the carb came loose then it has been sucking air for a while and therefore running lean. A lean motor will run hot and wear increases dramatically. I'd pull the head off and see what there is to see. How old is this thing. See if the valves are sealing, are the guides worn. any gouges in the cylinder? put your hand over the cylinder, tight, and turn the motor by hand, it should suck your hand tight.....give er a look and ask any questions you wish. I just finished an 11HP rebuild last night so I am fresh on the subject....

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aron

01-09-2006 10:26:25




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 Re: Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to p, 06-13-2000 10:55:23  
i need a gide line here i want to rebuild my motor for my mower and i just want a book telling me if i am puting it back to gether right just let me not if u got anything on it



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doug

06-13-2000 11:22:56




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 Re: Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to p, 06-13-2000 10:55:23  
p,thanks for your reply. Its a 10 year old Montgomery Wards Industrial/ Commercial Garden Tractor. It really has been a lemon since I bought it,but was guessing this might be it's end. Any special tools needed to remove the head? If I remember correctly, if i take off the three screws that hold a small screen in place, there is about a 1" nut in the center that should be removed, correct? Then maybe a couple other smaller nuts. Any good (free?) literature out there that I can see an exploded diagram of?? Congrats on your rebuilding job! Motors are a thing of beauty -especially when they are running.

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p

06-13-2000 13:39:39




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 Re: Re: Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to doug, 06-13-2000 11:22:56  
your thinking of the fylwheel. That is not where you want to work. I mean the Cylinder head where the spark plug is. It should take a 1/2 inch wrench and you will have to buy a new head gasket when you want to reinstall(under $10). Also, when these motors run hot the heads warp easily. When you remove it, check to see of the edge is black from exhaust leaking out. if so let me know and i can give further advice. also if you don't know what to check inside I can give more specific info. There also many people on here that are better than I ..... .

P.S. thanks for the congrats but I just finished reassembly, I haven't fired it off yet! that will bbe the ultimate test.

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Doug

06-13-2000 13:51:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to p, 06-13-2000 13:39:39  
p, thanks for saving me some un-necessary disassembly. I know now where to focus my attention. I will check back again if I have questions. Probably won't be able to get to it before the weekend. Thanks for your help so far, and good luck with your engine.I will need to go buy a goat now until I get this fixed.....



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Danny

06-13-2000 14:36:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Doug, 06-13-2000 13:51:40  
If you ran the engine with a loose carb very long the engine is most likely gone. The dust and dirt that you suck through an engine will wear out the rings, cylinder and valve guides very quickly. Better look at a replacement engine or short Block.



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SMB

06-13-2000 19:33:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Danny, 06-13-2000 14:36:14  
I would say "Better to look first"! I've got a 4 HP tiller engine on a mini bike that I've had the air breather off of for several years, (won't fit) The thing is 31 years old and still going strong! Never been rebuilt! This is a Briggs engine. These tiller engines last forever!



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p

06-13-2000 16:17:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 12 horse briggs and stratton in reply to Danny, 06-13-2000 14:36:14  
But its best to look first..... ..... .



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