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Craig

08-07-2000 21:58:35




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I'm trying to get started in the pulling sport,I'll be using an old Sears ST/16 with a Techumseh 16hp overhead valve motor. I'll be pulling in a stock class with a weight limit of 1150 lbs. Does anyone have any tips or hints about using one of these old power dogs for pulling? I have read that fluid in the tires is a power robber, but I have a tough time beliving this sence the tire rotates around the water, unlike a wheel weigh that rotates with the tire, any thoughts? What about the motor and transmition? The motor has been tached at 4000rpm no load speed, and sounds pretty good. Not to sure what it turns running around the yard, but sofar it does ok pulling a trailer load of rocks. Sorry for the book, but any info on pulling with this type of tractor and motor will be helpfull.

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Craig

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Anita

11-08-2000 17:51:24




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
Go into garden tractor pulling tips in the internet and you will receive all kinds of tips to help your pulling power. I pull a Cub Cadet and I have fluid in my wheels but we are going to drain them next year to see if I can get a little more power. I have a 12hp Koehler in it. Good Pulling!



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Jim Northup

08-25-2000 16:43:22




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
if you can help it don't put any weights onthe rear wheels it robs your power by trying to turn it also your tractor should be just fine I have never pulled against a overhead valve engine but hear they are going to be the thing to beat. Hope you have good luck and to hear how you did.
good luck Jim



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missery

08-11-2000 16:16:54




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
craig, you have a fine tractor to pull with. I have pulled many types of tractors, and the one you have is fine . remember, you will be pullin against people that have already done there homework. you will be playing catch up for a while.the tractor you have will get you there. remember,it is not allways power that gets the full pull,TRACTION. to much power,you will be hilling potatos! missery.

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john

08-10-2000 21:56:47




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
don't worry about what tractor u use as long as it set ut to pull safe. i use a 72 speedex and the dine a dozen cub people hate it, i also have a cub set up but it can't match the speedex. they have there clutch problems,( slipping), i had a idler pully lock up once, but i finshed the pull and the only full pull to boot, replaced the idler in 5 min. and kept going. that was 4 yrs. ago and the belt is still there and going strong. contact a local club and talk to them, they will help you out. keep it safe and enjoy. ps. where you located?

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Craig

08-11-2000 22:44:37




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 Re: Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to john, 08-10-2000 21:56:47  
I'm in North Carolina. I'm going to a pull this weekend to see how the tractors are set up, ask questions, see if any of the tractors need a paint job worse than mine, ask questions, check out the babes, and oh yea, more questions. But really, I'm hopeing that this adventure will turn out to be lots of fun. I would like to think that I will not get so into it that the FUN is replaced by over competitiveness, but human nature will kick in sooner or later. Anyway, the club I'm looking to get into has a pull once a month, so come September, watch out. I don't expect to win but I hope that I can whup-up on something!

Thanks to all,

Craig

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Craig

08-10-2000 21:18:42




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
Many thanks to those who took the time to give a helpfull responce. I'm going to attend a pull this weekend, and hit them up with a bunch of questions too. As of now, my old Sears will do, a Cub or a Deere would be nice but there is the cost factor. Right now I think the FUN factor is what needs to be looked at. Just wish parts for the Sears were as easy to find as the Cubs and Deeres. I think I'll try the fluid in the tires to start it's not like there will be a whole lot of tire speed involved to slosh the fluid around. Raw power here, not speed. Also, thanks for the engine advice, I don't need to spend the time or money in rebuilding an engine every other pull. Besides, I still like to mow the yard with it.

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Craig

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MAX

08-10-2000 19:11:07




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
That OHV160 is one torqueing motor. Worked with them on the Case uniloaders. Be forewarned that rumor had these motors were designed to run 2850 RPM. Case ran them at 3750 RPM and they would last about 500 hours. Keep a close eye on the crankcase vacuum, I think they neded to maintain around 1/2 inch of vacuum, but I could be wrong on that figure since its been over fifteen years since I worked on one. I ran calcium chloride and water in the tires of my old CASE 446 and it was worth 130 lbs per 8 x 16 tire. I didn't get into pulling competetively but needed the extra traction aide. Happy pullin.

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Don Rankin

08-09-2000 13:49:08




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
Craig,

Go for it! Don't be discouraged by Jim's derision of your Sears. He may just be picking on you, but in case he's not: older Sears tractors (and many other makes) are EXTREMELY competitive in STOCK classes!

Older Cub Cadets are excellent tractors indeed, but I have seen old Sears tractors send the Cubs (and everyone else) packing many times. It seems that Cadet fans in particular find that a very hard pill to swallow. ;-)

See you on the track,
Don

P.S.: In case you're wondering, mine are Massey-Fergusons.

P.P.S.: Don't risk your neck! I forgot in my previous reply to stress the importance of equipping your tractor with (anti-tip) wheelie wheels or bars.

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jim

08-08-2000 19:32:41




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
sell that thing and get a gear drive cub cadet and put a single cylinder 14 or 16 hp.



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Jonathan

08-12-2000 08:11:25




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 Re: Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to jim, 08-08-2000 19:32:41  
Jim, That is pretty mean. Must have been beaten several times by some 'cheap' tractor.

I pull a Ford LGT with a 16 horse Kohler and one of those 'evil' hydrostatic transmittions. The cub owners hate me too.



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Beitz

08-08-2000 02:33:14




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 Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Craig, 08-07-2000 21:58:35  
Just try rolling a loaded tire around the yard and see if it don't rob some of your power...



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Don Rankin

08-08-2000 11:52:20




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 Re: Re: Garden Tractor Pullin in reply to Beitz, 08-08-2000 02:33:14  
Loaded tires "roll around the yard" hard only because they're heavy, just like wheels with weights bolted on them. There's very little friction involved in slowly turning a tractor tire around a slippery liquid donut.

The only real disadvantage of fluid in the tires for tractor pulling (and it can be a BIG one) is the near impossibility of removing weight when you need to.

By the way Craig, any pulling club worth it's salt has an RPM limit for stockers, probably the engine's OEM spec, or about 3600 RPM.

If you really want to keep from "spinning your wheels", find a club you like, perhaps attend one of their pulls, and get (a printed set of) their rules to build your tractor by, not to mention a schedule of upcoming events.

Have Fun!
Don

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