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TomB

05-22-2002 04:04:25




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What garden tractors use direct drive or hydraulic drive to the drive wheels? I see so many using belts to some form of differential and I have number of short steep hills I have to mow and that causes some concern. Thanks for any help, Tom




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Jim S.

05-22-2002 11:02:43




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 Re: education in reply to TomB, 05-22-2002 04:04:25  
As far as belt drive and hills, it's not slippage I'd worry over, it's a worn belt coming off or breaking. Then you lose power to the wheel(s).

I'd suggest you stick with a shaft-drive, like Cub Cadet or John Deere. Do buy a model at mid-level or above in the brand's lineup, as the usage you intend is somewhat severe.



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MrG

05-22-2002 07:05:26




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 Re: education in reply to TomB, 05-22-2002 04:04:25  
The JD 120/140's had direct shaft drive to the hydrostat as did all the 300 series. The 110/112 and 200 series had belt drive the the speed variator up until about 1987(?). I have a couple 140's, a couple 300's, half a dozen 110/112's, and couple 200's. I also have 8 or 10 Cub Cadets.

I have no problem on hillsides with any of them unless the clutch (on the Cubs) is slipping or the variator (on the 110's) needs adjustment. I really prefer hydrostats to gear drives for most of the tasks I use them for. Gadget

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rick

05-22-2002 05:03:28




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 Re: education in reply to TomB, 05-22-2002 04:04:25  
Cub Cadet, the biggest Simplicity, Ingrsol and I'm sure a few others are shaft drive from the engine to the transmission/transaxle. I use a 1976 Wheelhorse C120 Automatic that has a belt drive. I live on a farm and use it for tilling a garden, mowing and spraying pasture. No trouble with the belt drive on very hilly ground. Quality is the key, you get what you pay for.
Rick



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Eric

05-22-2002 19:13:44




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 Re: Re: education in reply to rick, 05-22-2002 05:03:28  
Keep it adjusted and belt drives, even with Variator sheaves like a JD 110, will work great, I can drive my 1964 Bush Hog V36 straight up as steep of a hill as I want to and no problemmo. I can pull anything with it as long as my 23x8.50x12 Carlisle lug tires have the traction. This setup is great for hills. My Bush Hog has a variator like a JD 110/112. We mainly mow with a 1993 Wheel Horse 520H (the biggest boy WH made) with a 48" deck. It's belt drive to a hydro tranny and works great on hills. The Wheel Horse 8 speed belt drives work great too. Most belt drives are not a problem, and usually are easier to work on the engine than a shaft drive one.
Anything good quality will work, especially if it's a heavier model. For hills you want a good center of gravity and good weight distribution. A tip i've learned: If you are on a hill side and your tires are slipping because your wheels are turned or are in a hole, etc, one thing that helps with a heavier GT, if the deck is resting on the ground (free floating style or hanging style but on ground anyway) is to lift up the deck. That extra couple-3 hundred pounds or so (at least on my Wheel Horse) really helps traction wise. You can also check into weight kits. For hills you don't want anything rearward of the back tires so you don't have a force working against you. Good luck,
Eric

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