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14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement

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Jerry

10-05-2002 11:36:24




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I just replaced the flywheel on the Briggs/Stratton engine of my Snapper tractor. The engine turns over fine, but won't start and backfires every 5 seconds or so. I have adjusted the gap between the coil and flywheel rim to the thickness of a business card, but this makes no difference. Any suggestions?




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Steve

11-02-2002 13:31:05




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 Re: 14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement in reply to Jerry, 10-05-2002 11:36:24  
This may help, I have a older mtd, and had a hard time setting the points, so I purchased one of those electronic chips to fire the engine. It didn't work.So I got in touch with briggs and they told me in the earlier years the magnets on some flywheel's were reverse polarity. So that's why it wouldn't work with the chip. Maybe you had a reverse polarity, now with the new flywheel it's not the same.

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Fish

10-05-2002 16:45:26




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 Re: 14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement in reply to Jerry, 10-05-2002 11:36:24  
Why did you replace the flywheel? Fish



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Ichabod

10-05-2002 13:27:33




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 Re: 14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement in reply to Jerry, 10-05-2002 11:36:24  
Are you sure the key is not sheared? Sounds like it has sheared and the flywheel is not aligned properly. It's pretty hard to get the nut/bolt tight enough to keep the flywheel from shifting enough to shear the key. Was it running properly before replacing the flywheel?



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Jerry

10-05-2002 20:20:35




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 Re: Re: 14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement in reply to Ichabod, 10-05-2002 13:27:33  

I replaced the flywheel because the teeth in the starter ring were breaking out over the years and the starter gear would sometimes not engage. The original flywheel had a plastic starter ring, but the new one has metal teeth. Otherwise it looks the same.

The first time I tried to start the tractor and it failed, I tore it down and removed the new flywheel, and as you said, the pin was sheared. I replaced it and put it back together. Still did the same thing. Maybe it is sheared again. I don't have a torque wrench to tighten the flywheel bolt, so maybe I didn't have it tight enough. Tomorrow I will tear it down again to see if the pin has re-sheared. Thanks for the advise!

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teej

10-06-2002 07:28:25




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 Re: Re: Re: 14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement in reply to Jerry, 10-05-2002 20:20:35  
Its probably too late for you now, but you didn't have to replace the whole flywheel because of the ring gear. Briggs makes a kit to replace the plastic ring gear with an aluminum one on your existing flywheel. You drill those 4 rivets on your old flywheel, and repalce the gear with bolts included in the kit. Also comes with a new gear for the starter, which must be changed to match the ring gear. The starter gears are different for meshing with the 2 types of flywheels. Either will work for a while, but the wrong one wears out quick much quicker.

When you put the new key in, put the flywheel on first, then slip the key down the slot. This makes sure the flywheel goes ALL the way down on the taper of the crankshaft. Then, TIGHTEN that nut or bolt for the flywheel to the proper torque. It has to be TIGHT, or it'll shear that key again. Most flywheel nuts are about 65-80 foot pounds. The aluminum key is only there for alignment purposes. The taper and pressure from the tight bolt is actually what holds the flywheel in place on the crankshaft. That key is only aluminum, meant to break if something goes wrong with the engine to prevent serious damage.

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Ichabod

10-06-2002 16:57:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement in reply to teej, 10-06-2002 07:28:25  
Jerry, I went thru about the same thing with my Mom's Craftsman 42 inch mower a few months back. Had a lot of trouble with the starter. Had to replace the pinion gear couple of times, then the ring gear that teej mentioned, then the pinion gear again. And had the key to shear twice. You can get the flywheel bolt/nut tight by using a long box end wrench and whacking the end of it with a hammer.

But the root cause of my problem was the valve clearances were way too wide. So wide that the exhaust valve was not being lifted by the compression release cam. Once I figured that out and adjusted the valves from 30 something thousands to the proper clearance, the engine started right up. The starter just can't spin that big engine without the compression release, so it strips teeth off the ring or pinion. Fish can give you the clearances off the top of his head, I would have to look it up, but it's about 5 thousandths or so. This might be your problem too.

Ichabod

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Don

10-17-2002 19:54:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 14.5 HP Briggs backfiring/won't start after fly wheel replacement in reply to Ichabod, 10-06-2002 16:57:22  
Are you sure you got the right fly wheel. If the magnets and the key are not in the same position this will cause you to be out of time.and make it backfire



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