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Nathan

04-11-2003 14:30:25




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Has anyone ever put fluid in tires for weight. What is a good way to do this. Are there kits available to do this?

Thanks for you help




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Christopher hager

04-12-2003 09:24:58




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 Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Nathan, 04-11-2003 14:30:25  
I have a Bolens G14 with 23"x9.50"x12" Goodyear Turf Tires. I have had fluid (Calcium Chloride solution) in the tire for about twenty years. I bought tubes for the tires and cut of the standard valve stems replacing them by vulcanizing on tractor type fluid valve stems. This added at least 45 to 50 pounds a tire when great care was taken to fill the tire as far as possible. I keep the tire pressure quite low, which also helps traction. With the weight in the wheel the axle bearings do not have to carry the weight, (same as if you used wheel weights). I am getting ready to set up a pair of ag type v-bar grip tires on a spare set of rims to use with the single bottom plow, rototiller, back blade, and snow blower. I will be able to leave the chains on these wheels and switch to the turf tires in a few minutes with a floor jack and impact wrench for mowing. The fluid in the tire has worked great and if you have a heavy-duty transaxle. I think it is a great way to increase traction without changing the outward appearance of the machine.

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Brian G. NY

04-13-2003 06:20:37




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 Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Christopher hager, 04-12-2003 09:24:58  
It is not necessary to change the valve stems; the little "gadget" that TSC and others sell has a fitting for regular valve stems as well as the large tractor tire stems. It's a little slower, but we're talking 5-6 gals rather than 40 or 50 gals.



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lv4197

04-12-2003 21:46:12




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 Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Christopher hager, 04-12-2003 09:24:58  
Chistopher's method works well. I've used this method several times. Christopher didn't mention the need to enlarge the valve stem holes in the wheels but it's necessary with the larger tractor type valve stems. Once the tires are reassembled take them to your local tire repair shop that has the necessary equipment and have the fluid pumped in.



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J

04-11-2003 23:09:25




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 Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Nathan, 04-11-2003 14:30:25  
There are other alternatives to automotive antifreeze. There is a biodegradable, environmentally friendly antifreeze available. There is also a less toxic type of antifreeze used for RV's, and even a water based fluid that won't freeze used in some airconditioning systems in large commercial buildings. I suppose that one could even use winshield washer fluid, although it might not weigh quite as much as antifreeze

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Dale

04-11-2003 20:01:08




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 Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Nathan, 04-11-2003 14:30:25  
Nathan my 124 cub cadet has had fluid in it for 30 years,if you do not want to do it yourself most farm tire shops will fix you up my 8.50x23x12 tires hold 5.5 gal. each. Not sure what your mower is but do NOT DO THIS to a cheap mower with a pop metal rear end.



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Ollie

04-11-2003 15:10:31




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 Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Nathan, 04-11-2003 14:30:25  
See www.gemplers.com.



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Brian G. NY

04-11-2003 16:27:10




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 Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Ollie, 04-11-2003 15:10:31  
I have CaCl in my Ford LGT125 tires. To use that, you first have to buy tubes. I bought a set of wheels and tires at a garage sale that were loaded without tubes. Hard to believe what CaCl will do to steel! TSC sells that little adaptor thing, too. It works slow but beats spending the money for a pump that is impervious to such a corrosive fluid. A mixture of automotive anti-freeze can also be used with out installing tubes but it doesn't weigh quite as much. A friend of mine bought new tires for his A-C compact tractor and requested that they put fluid in them for him. Here's how they did it. First, they mounted the tire and set the beads; then they "broke" just one bead, laid the tire on it's side with "open" bead up, poured in the fluid, and reinflated the tire. I thought that was a cool way to do it. They filled his tires with used Auto anti-freeze. Again, that method couldn't be used with CaCl solution because you need tubes for that. I think my little Garden tractor tires hold about 6 gallons of fluid which adds over 60 lbs. to each wheel which is significant.

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dean

04-12-2003 23:06:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Brian G. NY, 04-11-2003 16:27:10  
not getting into the argument but if we ALL dont try to save the environment there will likely be a pretty bad inheritance for our children and grandchildren..just a fact...now on to the subject at hand..i use windshield washer fluid..has methanol alchohol in it to keep from freezing..while not as heavy as calcium chloride it doesnt rust ..is safe to the environment and costs under a dollar at walmart.

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Ollie

04-11-2003 18:12:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Brian G. NY, 04-11-2003 16:27:10  
Ethylene glycol is an extremely dangerous poison to all mammals, including humans. A tablespoon will kill a child. It tastes just like sugar and has killed small children who have simply licked it off a toy or other object dropped in a puddle of the stuff on the ground. The shop that did what you claim is likely in violation of local, state, and federal laws and is certainly asking for a nasty lawsuit should a child or even a pet be killed by such foolishness.

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Tom

04-11-2003 18:48:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Ollie, 04-11-2003 18:12:58  
Yes and if the old tractor leaked some antifreeze my 3 year old might die. Oh and if he got in the road he might die and what if he got in the pool. Lions and tigers and bears oh my. Get a grip. The 127 cub cadet I grew up on has antifreeze in the tires and still has. My point is that I have a 3 year old and there are alot of thing he could get into and antifreeze in the garden tractor is not high up on the priority list . Tom

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kjm

04-11-2003 21:34:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Tom , 04-11-2003 18:48:00  
Tom I agree, how is a kid going to get to anti- freeze when it is in a tire?? If it was that bad it wouldn`t be in the radiator either. The EPA dosn`t even care if you dump it down the drain(the local sewer system will but the EPA dosn`t)



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Ollie

04-11-2003 19:01:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Tom , 04-11-2003 18:48:00  
What a sorry excuse for a father!



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Rich

04-12-2003 05:03:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fluid in tires in reply to Ollie, 04-11-2003 19:01:19  
Nice discussion, MEN!!!



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