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Battery Cables Size

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Willie

03-04-2004 07:02:30




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It seems I've had to replace the battery in my cub cadet about every two years. I plain to find a auto/truck battery to drop in to see if It will last longer. The cables that are on the tractor are #4ga. I think. Should I replace the #4ga. with #2ga. and if so should I also run #2ga. from the starter solenoid to the starter/gen or leave it as #4ga.? Have any of you used this idea or found a better battery for your tractor. The last lawn and garden battery I bought was 350CCA and I was hoping it might last longer than a few years. Can to many CCA's be bad? And will the gen. be able to charge a heavy auto type battery? I keep a 2amp. charger on it during the winter while I'm not pushing snow.

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PWguy

03-06-2004 09:58:56




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 Re: Battery Cables Size in reply to Willie, 03-04-2004 07:02:30  
I've had good luck with spiral cell batteries like Optima. They are a little pricey ($100+) but they last years and hold their charge over long idle periods. I started using them in my collector cars which sat all winter. In the long run they save me money.



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BCA

03-04-2004 15:17:03




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 Re: Battery Cables Size in reply to Willie, 03-04-2004 07:02:30  
Wille:

I did what your trying to do. I installed walmarts smallest car battery (525 amps) and upgraded to 2 gauge cables. (bigger cables, less resistance, more power to the starter. I have a 128, and the battery fits under the seat with alittle revamping. If you have a cub with the battery under the seat, I got pics i can e mail you...
BCA



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Kent of Sw MO

03-04-2004 11:50:13




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 Re: Battery Cables Size in reply to Willie, 03-04-2004 07:02:30  
Autozone has a lawn and garden battery with 425 CCA. They last me 4 to 5 years. On battery cable heavyer is always better than light. Another improtant part is how well the cable is terminated. Crimp and solder is alway better than just a crimp.



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RusselAZ

03-04-2004 18:49:58




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 Re: Re: Battery Cables Size in reply to Kent of Sw MO, 03-04-2004 11:50:13  
#4 cable is plenty for a garden tractor. Most garden tractor solonoids are only rated at 100 amps so you aren't going to overload the cable. The cadet starters may draw a heavier load beings they are a starter generator combo, I've never had the pleasure but all the other little starters are not going to have a problem with #4 cable. Some of the import cars don't even use #4, #6 is enough.

I have a car battery in both my sears tractors. I think they are a group 72, (I don't feel like going outside to look! *G*). The old one has a low amp charging system which seems to do just fine keeping the battery up. The new tractor has a 15 amp alternator and does just fine also. I also have a 500 amp invertor on the new one for out of the yard power (which is why I put the car battery in it) and it does just fine.

garden tractor batteries don't last much longer than 2 years (neither do RV coach batteries)for good reasons, mostly because of being left to sit idle. CCA gives you an idea of how good the battery may be, and how well it will crank something at -20* F but it doesn't have much to do with how long they will last.

Something that will go a lloonngg way to helping something start in the cold is to use synthetic oil.

To close, let me say that you should not leave a low amperage charge on a battery for long periods of time. It is better to bring them back up every two or three weeks. and, it saves on your power bill.

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AZ Jack

03-04-2004 19:54:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Battery Cables Size in reply to RusselAZ, 03-04-2004 18:49:58  
Is that a 500 amp or 500 watt inverter? Seems like amps x volts = watts which would equate to a 7,000 watt inverter. I would like to do this to one of my farm tractors as I would have a beefier charging system. Clue me in on how you are doing this-thanks, Jack



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RusselAZ

03-04-2004 22:09:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Battery Cables Size in reply to AZ Jack, 03-04-2004 19:54:45  
Sorry about that, I meant to say a 500 watt inverter. I use it for 110 power out away from the buildings for drilling (hammer drill) and such small power tools. Instead of a long extension cord. I wanted an inverter for a good many years and I saw this one for 29$ at one of the warehouse clubs and got it. It will run my 5 1/2 inch circular saw. My original idea for it was to see how it worked and then get the 1000 watt ones which are $80 or so to run one of those self contained hydralic pump systems for the lifts on the tractor. oh well, tinker tinker.

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