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12.5 hp Briggs ring end gap

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Tom

05-25-2004 04:44:12




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Can anyone tell me what the proper ind gap is for a new set of rings installed in a 12.5 hp Briggs engine? I have honed the cylinder to remove all signs of wear and now standard rings have a .037 end gap. My manual tells me that that is too much. I bought a set of .010 over rings and they overlap about .005. All my manual tells me is the maximum ring gap allowed not the minimum. I have ask a couple of local shops and one tells me .006 to .010 the other tells me .015 to .018. I am confused. If I get them too tight they may break and score my cylinder. If I get them too large they may allow excess oil use and wear out too soon. Can anyone help?

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Bob

05-25-2004 21:31:00




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 Re: 12.5 hp Briggs ring end gap in reply to Tom, 05-25-2004 04:44:12  
A rule of thumb is .002" to .003" of ring gap for each 1" of bore diameter. Thus, a ring for a 3" bore would have a .006" to .009" endgap.

Use the piston, upside down, with no rings installed, to push the ring you are measuring quite a ways down in the bore, to the end of ring travel, and measure the ring gap there where the bore is not worn as much as it is near the top. Using the piston in this manner sets the ring square in the bore for an accurate measurement, and you want to measure it there because if you have an OK gap near the top of the bore, where there is more wear, the ring will bind lower down, where there is less wear.

The reason the .010" OS rings you have overlap is because they are made for a cylinder that has been bored .010" in DIAMETER, and this makes the .010" OS rings considerably larger in CIRCUMFERANCE so they overlap!

Hot-rodders buy rings that are slightly too big, and file the ends to get the close ring gap they desire. This can be carefully done by hand, or with a PISTON RING FILER. (I've included a link to a site with a photo of a piston ring filer).

If this engine is for serious use, and needs to last, your bore is probably worn (and honed) too much for the original piston. It would be best to have it bored (or precision honed) to the appropriate OVERSIZE, and a matching piston and ring set installed.

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bstrucker

05-25-2004 19:04:23




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 Re: 12.5 hp Briggs ring end gap in reply to Tom, 05-25-2004 04:44:12  
I would think .010 would be enough.I wouldn't worry to much about the rings leaking,most of them leak more through the head gasket and exhaust vale than they do the rings



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buck

05-25-2004 06:49:50




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 Re: 12.5 hp Briggs ring end gap in reply to Tom, 05-25-2004 04:44:12  

In the past I have done quite a few just as you are doing and always used the .010 with good results.



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