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682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice

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Don L C

06-30-2006 18:21:23

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I am interested in old tractors and go to many shows.....I am disabled and can mot stand or walk..... so I bought this 682 Cadet to ride the showes, my electric wheelchair wont go to well off road and wont last all day.....

The problem is I cant get it started....since we unloaded it I got it running about 3 times out of 25 trys....I expected to have repairs to make...The check valves in the tranny were leaking.....I replaced them @ $125 ea.....It has a twin, Series 2 Kohler engine....Ok now I need it to start and run....I cant walk back....I didnt expect engine trouble....new points and plugs didnt help..... I checked compression after all this cranking and starter fluid I expect the cyl. walls are washed clean of oil....low compression, 80 on one 85 on the other.....what can I do except a over haul.....How much would a overhaul cost?..... .I know this is not good and I generly dont do things half assed, but what if I honed the walls, with new rings and laped in the valves? Or had a valve job done..... .let me hear.....Don

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125 Hydro

07-02-2006 06:49:30

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 06-30-2006 18:21:23

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May I suggest looking into joining one or both of these forums. Both have absolutely great people with an abundance of knowledge and both can furnish pictures if needed. ALSO,... you may live close by one of their members that would be more than willing to stop by your place and help resolve your problems. Please let us know if this suggestion helps.

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Don L C

07-01-2006 12:59:00

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 06-30-2006 18:21:23

JT, R Bedell and Rustyj14..... .I am going to answer your questions....

#1 have not tried prinning with gas, but have used starter fluid....not even a pop, nothing...removed carb. checked float, its fine no dents or holes ...needle and seat moved freely...

#2 Fresh fuel...fuel pump puts out small blips as i crank....

#3 held spark plugs in my fist, could feel spark in both plugs...

#4 iT ROLLS OVER BUT WONT START, NOT EVEN A BLIP....

#5 The color of the rear end is black...

#6 inside of carb was clean...

#6 removed gas cap....

Should I put a kit in the carb. while I have it off ? Ill try oil in the cyl when I get it back togeather...

Can I buy it on line ? three dealers in my area...none sell Kohler parts... neares parts is 35 miles...

Thanks a lot guys Don

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R Bedell

07-01-2006 14:41:10

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 07-01-2006 12:59:00

From what you describe, it sounds like an electrical issue as opposed to a fuel issue.

Have you tried the obvious..?? Plugs, points, & condenser...???

Plugs - RV15YC4 Champion
Points - #KH-47-150-03
Condenser - #KH-52-755-13

Plug Gap = .035"
Point Gap = .020"

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Don L C

07-01-2006 15:16:32

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to R Bedell, 07-01-2006 14:41:10

R Bedell-----

Yes it has new plugs,points @ .0020 and cond....
I had it running once right after doing this.....though I had it.....thanks

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R Bedell

07-01-2006 15:57:55

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 07-01-2006 15:16:32

Would this be a typo ".0020" and you did gap them at .020 inch.... or do you need to...???

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Don L C

07-01-2006 19:02:34

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to R Bedell, 07-01-2006 15:57:55

The back end is black...what does that tell you?
thanks.....Don

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R Bedell

07-01-2006 20:18:53

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 07-01-2006 19:02:34

The Cub Cadet 82 Series is the production the IH sold off. Part of the 82 were IH and part was CCC (div of MTD). The red rear ends were IH built, and the black ones were CCC built.

The 82 Series is one of the best series that IH Cub Cadet ever made. Sorry you are having problems with yours. I have 782 and I love it.

YOU SAID...you used starter fluid and it still wouldn't run. If it won't run on starter fluid, putting a carb kit in it would cure the problem.

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Don L C

07-01-2006 18:48:58

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to R Bedell, 07-01-2006 15:57:55

Yea ----.020 point setting....trying to decide if I should put a kit in the carb.
Gotta get another nut that holds the boul on, dropped it and cant find it.....
This is one tractor I wish I had passed on.....I am not having fun.....
Thanks for the help.....Don

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Don L C

07-02-2006 08:45:06

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 07-01-2006 18:48:58

Thank you guys for all the help....

I am going to put a new set of plugs in it and clesn the passages in the carb. with cleaner....then blow it out with air...

Where can I buy parts,fuel bowl bottom nut, I lost mine and a carb kit, on the inter net ?

Thanks Don

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R Bedell

07-03-2006 02:52:30

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 07-02-2006 08:45:06

Parts can be obtained from your local CC or Case-IH dealer(s). On line dealers are many to include:

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Link
http://www.ccsupplyroom.com/

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07-01-2006 07:23:50

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 06-30-2006 18:21:23

You are getting your self all upset and are trying to look a wat tooooo far into the problem. At 80-85 pounds compression, that is good on a flat head engine. What have you tried to do to start it. Have you tried priming into the carb itself? There is a real good possibility you might have some fuel issues, these are normally easy starting engines. Take a plug out and check to make sure you have fire to the plugs, has this been sitting out side? did you drain all the fule out and start with fresh fuel? These have gauges in them new and when they come aprt, they are a water funnel and will get water in the gas and all you need is a drop in each cylinder and no matter what you do, it will NOT run. So, I would check fire, drain and clean fuel system and see what happens there.
Jim

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R Bedell

07-01-2006 03:12:33

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 06-30-2006 18:21:23

When you say "you can't get it started", does that mean it rolls over and won't start OR does that mean it won't roll over...??

To determine the age of your 682, what is the color of the Rear End... Red or Black..???

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Rustyj14

06-30-2006 18:51:53

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Re: 682 Cub Cadet,wont start,need advice in reply to Don L C, 06-30-2006 18:21:23

First off, make sure the fuel is fresh, not last years product! then clean the carburetor by taking off the fuel bowl, checking for gummy in the passages, use carburetor cleaner, or laquer thinner. Look for any small holes clogged by dirt, or gummed fuel.Also look for a carb float that doesn't float! A carb left to sit outside all winter gets condensation in the bowl chamber, which freezes hard, compresses the float, and it doesn't float! Also keep the breather hole in the gas cap open--Mud wasps like to lay their eggs in there, then plug the hole with "mud", until the egg hatches! and that keeps the fuel from flowing to the carb and engine! Using a squirt oil can, put some engine oil in each cylinder, to help the rings to seal. don't get into an overhaul, until you find out if it will stay running. Clean out the fuel tank, and delivery line-s, make sure you have spark! HTH: Rustyj

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