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Ag Tire Question.

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F100Panel

01-21-2007 06:22:05




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I posted a while back asking about Ag tires versus chains to mow a rolling lawn & I was tired of all the wheel spin climbing hills with Turf Tires. I believe I want Ag Tires. Now..... Most sellers show you the tire unmounted/uninflated. I"m looking for more of a flat profile. Some are very rounded when inflated. AND cost is a factor. So far I"m looking at Deestone ( Korean?) & Carlisle. Deestone never shows them mounted. The lugs on the Deeestone in the pics appear heavier/thicker and closer together than the Carlisle but I can never seem to find an inflated picture to judge the profile. Firestone makes the flatter profile I"m told but have not seen any pics or anything. For that matter, I can"t find anyone selling Firestone Ag tires in 23x10.50-12. Anyone have any helpful input?

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Johnnycake

01-22-2007 13:08:05




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 Re: Ag Tire Question. in reply to F100Panel, 01-21-2007 06:22:05  
I've run a pair of 26/12/12 Goodyear Terra Tires for the last 25 years on my mower/garden tractor. It weighs a little over 1,000 lbs. They give great traction, don't tear the yard up, and have lasted a long time. Probabaly cost more but, they have lasted 25 years so far.



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dan67

01-21-2007 18:39:17




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 Re: Ag Tire Question. in reply to F100Panel, 01-21-2007 06:22:05  
I added atv tires with fliud to my simplicity and really changed the yard tractor into a real worker,didn't notice any real damage to yard. Excellent opition



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ANON

01-21-2007 16:25:07




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 Re: Ag Tire Question. in reply to F100Panel, 01-21-2007 06:22:05  
Firestone has not made the 23-10.50X12 in an ag tread since the mid 70's. Why not look into an atv tire? There are some tread designs you might like in a 12" rim size, granted they are more expensive than most lawn & garden tires.The Carlisle tires ane not a bad tire for the price. Look on ebay for Tucker tire --he has a few good deals if you catch them right.



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bill 5467

01-21-2007 07:35:33




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 Re: Ag Tire Question. in reply to F100Panel, 01-21-2007 06:22:05  
The "roundness" of a tire has alot more to do with rim width than actual profile of tire. That's why tractor pullers use wider wheels than actually "needed" - it puts more rubber to the ground.



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F100Panel

01-21-2007 17:27:07




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 Re: Ag Tire Question. in reply to bill 5467, 01-21-2007 07:35:33  
Interesting point on rim width affecting tire profile/THANKS!!!! I guess if my current turf 10.50's are flat profiled on the rim, the Ag's should be flat/rim width should be sufficient. I'm hooked on the idea of increased traction/turfs are fine for flat lawns. My tractor weighs near a thousand with the deck and rear weightbox, has individual rear brakes & differential lock. Using all that I can make the machine go through most places but I tire of the fight. I just want to set the hyrdo speed & sit there & enjoy the power steering & smell of fresh cut grass & skip the areobic workout of braking and weight shifting . Then theres the occasional runaway if not thinking after a wet period I start down a grassy knoll that is well shaded & still damp. The turf tires just slide like sleigh runners..... & the paniced reach for differential lock that really don't help once the tires turn into sleigh runners

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JoeK(WI)

01-21-2007 10:01:00




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 Re: Ag Tire Question. in reply to bill 5467, 01-21-2007 07:35:33  
Opinion-Turf tires are designed so that if they do slip or spin,the don't tear up the lawn badly.They're traction is affected greatly by inflation pressure and weight transfer.In other words a couple lbs one way or the other in pressure "can" make a huge difference in traction,as can weight shift(ie:turning uphill or sidehill operation)where tractor/operators weight shifts to front or other rear tire.IMHO the 1st step in curing such a problem would be trying wheel weights/liquid ballast before going to Ag/Bar treads or chains.Also on many lighter transaxles a total lack of tire slippage"can" put undo stresses on the TA.Even little things,like adjusting the seat position back a couple inches,or leaning to the"light side"can make a real difference in traction.This is all relating to Mowing,not towing or using ground engaging implements.

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