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Poppin' Johnny

02-03-2001 11:02:30




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What could you do with a Uni? I know it was something Minnie Mo came up with. Anyone have pictures? I never saw one, only heard of them. Did they make very many?




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Dan Clark

03-29-2002 09:52:02




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 Re: New Idea Uni System in reply to Poppin' Johnny, 02-03-2001 11:02:30  
I am looking for either a 708 or a709 mule I farm in southern MN and still pick earcorn and the 702 is getting pretty tired



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Jim W

02-04-2001 16:52:20




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 Re: New Idea Uni System in reply to Poppin' Johnny, 02-03-2001 11:02:30  
The newer MM UNI gold/brown model has a 4-cyl MM motor. Mine has this, same as in 4-star tractor I am told. My uni has a picker w/ 2-row head which I use to open the field before I go in with the pull-type New Idea picker for the rest.
Glad to hear of the interest in the UNI and New Idea. I live within a half hour drive of Coldwater,OH, the home of NI,"Cornpicker Capital of the World" where the now empty factory sits. There are a lot of UNIs still working around here in the fall on the dairy farms in the area chopping & picking.
I collect NI machinery & memmorabilia, hope to put together NI museum someday. Have talked to and know alot of engineers and people who worked there, just need to get all down on paper and recorded. 100 years of building good equipment ought to be mentionable. Interesting for me as a 24 year old.

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Alan Farley

02-03-2001 12:38:28




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 Re: New Idea Uni System in reply to Poppin' Johnny, 02-03-2001 11:02:30  
My neighbor still runs his old MM Uni with a 2-row ear corn attachment to pick the end rows for his 10 acres of corn, he used to run it on more acres. He has had it for years and he says it never gave him many problems at all. He used to get parts at our local IH dealer of all places. Hey Kev, what kind and size of engines did they put in these? When where they made and any idea of how many? They seem awlfully rare. This one is Gold/Brown. Very neat little machines. Interesting how the engine sits way over to the left and the narrow back axle over to the right. I wouldn't want to use one on a hillside. Very dangerous drivers platform with moving belts being just a few inches away from the drivers arm. The corn head snouts sure have a steep angle too.

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kev@IA

02-03-2001 17:57:06




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 Re: Re: New Idea Uni System in reply to Alan Farley, 02-03-2001 12:38:28  
Sorry, I used the New Idea units for years before I knew about the Mini Mos. The old belt drive power units used GM gas motors our first used a large v6 that loved to over heat. The next a 703 used a I6 and was a good unit except we had to rebuild the variable speed belt drive every three years, were picking into 8 ton Bush Hog wagons. Then dad bought a 708 Hydro, Perkins 354 @ 138hp. My only gripe was the sound the Perkins made. Then we got a 800c, 5.9 Cummins @152hp. When Pioneer decided we growers wern't good enough to pick corn any more we traded for a IH 1440.
A 709, 801 and 802 came with a 436 @ 175 and came from Allis. I think Allis or Perkins suppiled the motors for the Diesel belt drive Unis Model 705, 706. The 800 came with the 708 motor. the 803 came with a A.C. 426 intercooled @ 220 hp! The 802c and 803c came with Cummins power at 177 and 234 hp. There are two basic types of power unit, belt drive and hydro. Hydros started at 708 till the end, all lower numbered units were built as belt units. You can tell at long distance. The belt units had fuel tanks right behind the cab which has a dutch type door, the exhaust exits to the rear over the radiator, the cooling air is drawn in at the sides of the cowling and the cover right after the left front wheel has two thunb screws to open and grease the shives of the belt drive every 4 hours. The hydro has a diamond shape cab, exhaust out the top, fuel tank at the back where you can stand on the ground to refuel, cooling air is drawn in a screened area on the back of the cab and the motor has just a guard. All hydros are diesel. Most belts were gasoline.
New Idea bought the line in 1963, the orange is called Bittersweet and a off white/cream trim color and was used till Allied bought it. Then the colors were white and gray. The hydros came out in 1976.

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kev@IA aka Uni-Man

02-03-2001 12:09:00




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 Re: New Idea Uni System in reply to Poppin' Johnny, 02-03-2001 11:02:30  
In central Iowa they were usually owned to harvest seed corn, the various power units mounted 727, 737, 838 and 839 husking beds. They also made forage chopper units, these needed the higher hp power units. many Unis that started out in seed corn are now mostly forage machines, they made a adapter to mount the regular corn heads on the chopper for chopped ear corn. They made a Flail Mate that allowed direct cut of forage, made the machine very front heavy. They made 710,717,818,819 combines as well. 13, 15 and 20 foot grain tables were made but not up to what other brands offered. They made the 729A cage sheller for corn and the huge 858 cage sheller the equal of all but the very largest combines for harvesting corn. They made corn heads from 2 row wide to 6 row wide and every thing in between except for 5 row heads. Do NOT buy the old chain drive type, very high maintiance! The 800 series are much better. A bit better preformer than the JD heads of the time, not as good as a 900 IH. Many JD heads were adapted because the green head also fit the green combine in the shed. The 880 ear corn harvester is now used for seed corn harvest, seed co want ears with husk on now. A tool platform was made for awhile and a 9 foot wide snow blower also. Even a New Idea push planter was offered.
Have heard of small square balers being mounted as well as spray tanks and booms. As a combine it is heaver for its capacity than others so compaction is a proablem, not helped by the small standerd tire size 18.4x26. Some of the hydros came with factory rear wheel assist. The belt drives were a high maintiance unit when used to pull wagons, did alright as combine. The older combines and shellers had an option called a bin strecher, a small auger that filled a tow behind wagon, a good deal as the grain tanks were small.
Let me know if you have questions.
kev

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Jake

02-27-2001 05:20:11




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 Re: Re: New Idea Uni System in reply to kev@IA aka Uni-Man, 02-03-2001 12:09:00  
Byron out of New York state was at one time the biggest consumer of Uni power units. They used these to put their own head and husking bed on them to harvest seed corn and I believe pop corn. Their unit was easier on the crop than a NI picker unit. They started building their own power unit when the Uni line was discontinued.



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