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dairyman

02-27-2006 10:19:39




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I am considering buying a New Idea 701 Uni-system that has been parked inside a barn for the past 10-15 years it has 2000 hrs on it but has had the engine replaced when the radiator hose came off and ruined the first engine. the replacement engine is the same model as the orginal and only has a few hrs on it. the entire thing appears to be in good shape exept that is sunk into the dirt. is there anything that these combines had a lot of trouble with or do they have a good reputation? also how easy is it to get parts for if the dealership does not have them? I have seen very few of these combines in junkyards.

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Superpicker

03-27-2006 09:33:59




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to dairyman, 02-27-2006 10:19:39  
Hi Dairyman,

Just wondering how you came out on your 701 deal? I bought a better 735 corn head for mine two weeks ago. This one has been all rebuilt,shedded, and is ready for the field. The owner parted out the power unit, due to a cracked head I think.



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dairyman

03-28-2006 11:31:06




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to Superpicker, 03-27-2006 09:33:59  
i got it for $500 it has no problems other than rust on the surface and will be field ready to harvest wheat with only a good cleaning and grease.



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Superpicker

03-29-2006 18:42:05




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to dairyman, 03-28-2006 11:31:06  
Glad to hear that. Were you able to get a manual with it? If not I may be able to get you one. I may even have some pictures of my old Uni on a disk around here somewhere. Let me know if you need any help or have questions.



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dairyman

03-29-2006 19:26:41




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to Superpicker, 03-29-2006 18:42:05  
I got the owners manual with it and also got a manual from the 1971 operators clinic I will let you know if I have any questions.



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Quebec Red

03-04-2006 07:42:38




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to dairyman, 02-27-2006 10:19:39  
Really, really reconsider this deal. The machine was parked and remained so for years for a reason. If nobody else wanted it for that long a period, what makes you think that it will be a good one for you.I had 2 Unis bought new in the early 80s (I am a slow learner). The first was a 708, 2x4. After cooking the motor at 583 hours, I rebuilt it and traded for a 709 4x4. This was a super improvement. I had a good NI dealer who stocked a lot of parts and attachments. However, my needs changed when the machine was only 4 years old. The market had turned around, and I have acess to the easatern Canadian market and the north eastern US. I could not find an offer close to wholesale book. It took several years to eventually unload. Now with no New Idea, and Agco not supporting this market much, why put $$$ and time and aggravation into a 35 year old money pit. Take your $$$ and milk some more cows to make$$$$ and hire the job done. This will give you $$ and a h-ll of a lot less stress that you can live without. If it were a 709 or newer, my comments would be a little, but not much more favorable. A 35 year old machine to do the harvesting will not be dependable at all. This is not like a 35 year old tractor that is only a helper or a 4th unit. If they go down,you can always borrow a neighbours or rent one. Not so with a harvesting unit. Really think this one through long and use a sharp pencil. My thoughts----- ---NO WAY!!!!..... ...QR..

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dairyman

03-05-2006 19:17:18




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to Quebec Red, 03-04-2006 07:42:38  
the uni system was parked becuse the person that owned it died and the family did not make any attempt to sell it until now. as far as having a custom harvester do the work that is impossible because of the gates that we need to go through so the combine can not have a head over 15 feet wind and there is no one in my area that has a combine this size anymore. the uni would be replacing a John Deere 12A so I am not shure that what i have is better than the uni. I am also aware of the fact that it is likly to break but that is why I intend to replace anything that is worn on any combine that I endup buying regardless of the brand.

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Superpicker

02-28-2006 19:57:27




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to dairyman, 02-27-2006 10:19:39  
These were widely sold from 1965 until about 1972. I have a 1968 model. In early 1968, the rear steering axle was beefed up and redesigned a bit over the older MM type. NI found they needed this for big silage and hopper wagons and some guys were trying to flex the rear ends too much and snapping them off.
Mine and the one you are looking at should have the GM 292 motor, a fairly reliable, but can be thirsty engine. It proved to be a worthy engine in farm equipment, as I believe the F Gleaner used it too.
You should be able to find a serial number plate with lot # under the platform (cab). This can help tell you what year it is.

For their time, they could do a lot of work. The belt variable speed needs to be kept adjusted according to the manual. Splines and hubs kept greased regularly. I have heard guys say when the splines get worn, things can be troublesome. Mine thankfully is not to that point yet.
If trying to pull a big wagon, the variable speed takes a beating, along with steep hills.
What attachment does the one you are looking at have? Mine has a 737 huking bed.Right now it is in the barn and the husking bed will have to be taken off to get at a hydraulic leak next to the frame. Can't quite stand on my head to get in there.
I must mention many of these caught on fire due to trash accumulating around the engine. Cleaning this off periodically is a must along with the fire extinguisher handy too. A friend of mine this fall had a 705 (newer, diesel) catch on a fire with a 729 sheller and corn head. Not pretty.

I like mine, but they are not something you will take to the field and work the heart out of it.

Others may chime in here on this. Let us know what other questions you have.I am about 35 miles from where these old rigs were made and there are still a bunch of these picking and chopping around here.

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dairyman

03-01-2006 04:34:45




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to Superpicker, 02-28-2006 19:57:27  
thanks for the info this one has the combine unit with rigid header with it nothing else but I only need it for harvesting wheat and beans so that is no big deal. the engine is different from the one that you say should be in it because it has a Continental engine instead of a GM engine.



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Superpicker

03-01-2006 14:47:17




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to dairyman, 03-01-2006 04:34:45  
I forgot that some of the early ones have a 244? Continental motor in them. I am going to guess and say the first year or two of production (65-66). If you can find out what the lot # is (on platform under cab) this can be categorized as to year built. I know of one built 1965 (lot #2).

For beans and wheat it ought to do ok. I would like to find one around here but many of the combine units around here have been completely worn out and hit the scrap yard.Does it have a hume reel (pickup reel)one of those in beans is a necessity.

You asked about parts, we have a used combine parts yard north of here about 25 miles, Bryant Combine Parts 260-997-6940. They have a large menagerie of combines for parts.

www.bryantcombineparts.com

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dairyman

03-01-2006 17:14:51




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to Superpicker, 03-01-2006 14:47:17  
thanks for the info on where to find parts, the combine does not have a Hume reel on it but it will not be to hard to make a reel that has fingers on it for running beans. I forgot to get the serial number of it I will see if my friend can get the number for me since it is his grandfather that is selling it.



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paul

03-02-2006 09:08:15




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to dairyman, 03-01-2006 17:14:51  
Not hard to make? You need the batts to always point downward, so you need rollers & excentric arms on the end - I wouldn't consider that easy. Just putting fingers on a rotating reel will wrap the beans around the reel.

--->Paul



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dairyman

03-02-2006 15:52:00




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 Re: New Idea Uni-system in reply to paul, 03-02-2006 09:08:15  
I should have said that I was going to modify another reel off a newer combine so that it will fit. I know that the bats need to rotate or they will just have the bean stems wind around the reel, I just don't think that it is that hard to make a reel work for what I need.



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