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Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type?

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1206SWMO

11-25-2007 13:16:38




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A friend on the Red Power Forum purchased this old Gleaner PT at a sale for $70 to save it from being junked.The V-4 Wisconsin is free but someone stole the hand crank.It looks to be in good shape.

Its a walker machine and says Gleaner Six on the back.My research says its a Gleaner Model S made from around 1942-53?Opinions anyone?

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Rusty6

12-01-2007 14:21:54




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 13:16:38  
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Just a test to see if I can post this old ad for a Gleaner S pull type that I have.



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Butch(OH)

11-26-2007 17:40:18




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 13:16:38  
For those of you who have never been around an S or Six Gleaner they are a tiny machine. This pic shows the diminutive size. My oldest son Bill who is between the combine and feed cart is only 5'8" tall. The S is almost like a large size toy.



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Butch(OH)

11-26-2007 17:32:43




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 13:16:38  
Well, Blaine here is some more scoop on the S and T, darned confusing if you ask me. The first 6 foot pull types were developed in 1936, model S walker and T raddle. They were powered by a 2 cylinder Cushman (keep watching the fence rows, LOL) They went into production in 1938 before enough testing was done and they were apparantly pretty bad as they were all taken back, rebuilt and even then did not stay sold. So in 1942 they designed two entirely new machines but still called them models S and T, why?? who knows. Confused yet? read on. Between 1942 and 1954 the S became the Six and then was switched back to the S again, (we know that from the ones still in existence, not from my references). In 1954 the final form the 6' Gleaner was renamed the P-80 or "P"ull type "80" inch cut. The P-80 in my book looks to be identical to my S save the wider header. A few years ago there was an absolutely like new P-80 advertised on this site that was not far from you Blaine. I remember it because it was as new and they took a close up of the tag and it said MFG by Allis-Chalmers. My reference, which is Norm Swinfords book by the way, says none were built after A-C bought Gleaner, apparantly not so.

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BrianAhart(MO)

11-27-2007 06:12:23




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to Butch(OH), 11-26-2007 17:32:43  
Butch, I concur with your findings. I also know where there is a P-80 with "MFG by Allis-Chalmers" on the tag. If I am interpreting the tag correctly, it is a 1955 model.

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1206SWMO

11-26-2007 22:06:29




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to Butch(OH), 11-26-2007 17:32:43  
Wow Butch,this is all very confusing.Thanks for all the research you have done.I need to get Swinfords book.

I said that I'd just stick to SP combines but I may have to get a Gleaner pull type.



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Butch(OH)

11-26-2007 17:32:34




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 13:16:38  
Well, Blaine here is some more scoop on the S and T, darned confusing if you ask me. The first 6 foot pull types were developed in 1936, model S walker and T raddle. They were powered by a 2 cylinder Cushman (keep watching the fence rows, LOL) They went into production in 1938 before enough testing was done and they were apparantly pretty bad as they were all taken back, rebuilt and even then did not stay sold. So in 1942 they designed two entirely new machines but still called them models S and T, why?? who knows. Confused yet? read on. Between 1942 and 1954 the S became the Six and then was switched back to the S again, (we know that from the ones still in existence, not from my references). In 1954 the final form the 6' Gleaner was renamed the P-80 or "P"ull type "80" inch cut. The P-80 in my book looks to be identical to my S save the wider header. A few years ago there was an absolutely like new P-80 advertised on this site that was not far from you Blaine. I remember it because it was as new and they took a close up of the tag and it said MFG by Allis-Chalmers. My reference, which is Norm Swinfords book by the way, says none were built after A-C bought Gleaner, apparantly not so.

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ripbob

11-25-2007 19:01:01




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 13:16:38  
I have a Gleaner 52S in the barn. It has the Wisconsin engine. Appears like the one in the field. Mine is totally complete, engine crank, straw spreader, removable bin auger, etc. I bought it at a farm sale from the first owner about 10 years ago. For the same reason, to keep it from being junked out. Put a new set of tires on it, pulled it home and put it up in the shed. I believe it has never been left out in its life. Was going to restore, but of course have never got around to it. When I was a little younger, I worked the wheat harvest out West. Quit in 1980. By the way, 1206SWMO I believe I live about 50 miles or so Southeast of you.

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1206SWMO

11-26-2007 22:15:24




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to ripbob, 11-25-2007 19:01:01  
I live in the SE part of Vernon County.Do you live by Bolivar or Fair Play?

Sounds like you have a nice old Gleaner S combine.



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Butch(OH)

11-25-2007 15:45:58




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 13:16:38  
Well don"t confuse me with an expert but I own an S and it is a low bin machine. I always used the bin height to tell a Six from an S but maybe I am mistaken? Mine has a serial plate on the left side of the separator. My 1951 S



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1206SWMO

11-25-2007 17:34:52




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to Butch(OH), 11-25-2007 15:45:58  
Butch, I know very little about pull type combines. About all I have to go by is the book "The Grain Harvesters".On page 179 it shows a model T Gleaner that looks a twin to the picture I put on here.It says the T was built from 1937-41 and was a raddle chain machine.My friends is a walker machine.

In my book it says Gleaner only built two 6 ft machines,the T and the S.My Dad had a Gleaner Six when I was born but theres no good pictures of it.

I think someone needs to write a book showing pictures of all the pull type combines ever built.It would be quite an undertaking and probably wouldnt sell too good.I wish that I had more original Gleaner PT sales lit.

Thanks for your input.

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Jaden

11-25-2007 17:54:32




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 17:34:52  
Per website www.acgleaneronline.com/glequipment.html, the model S was made till 1941, then model Six S was made 1942-1953.
I know little about Gleaners, too and I used the term "my combine" loosely. "Pile of Parts" may be more accurate.



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1206SWMO

11-25-2007 18:14:04




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to Jaden, 11-25-2007 17:54:32  
Jaden,does yours look identical to Butches or the one I put a picture of on here?

Is yours a raddle chain machine or does it have walkers?



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Jaden

11-25-2007 18:54:31




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 18:14:04  
Here are some photos. Hope they help.

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1206SWMO

11-25-2007 19:31:10




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to Jaden, 11-25-2007 18:54:31  
Thanks.It looks just like the one I put a picture of on here.

Is that a 123 IH combine in the background?Do you have a picture of it?



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Jaden

11-25-2007 15:41:34




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 Re: Picture-Is This a Model S Gleaner Pull Type? in reply to 1206SWMO, 11-25-2007 13:16:38  
I have a combine that looks identical. The nameplate has large letters that say Gleaner Six. Stamped on the lower part of the nameplate is Model S, and then serial #



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