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Fred

01-10-2000 11:17:34




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I purchased a Farmall BN that came with a cordwood saw. The saw is belt driven. I have the original flat belt for it and a much longer one for a spare. I am ignorant in the use of these belts. The original belt looks quite worn. How do I connect the metal loops on the end of the belts. I was told to use a rawhide dowel. Is this correct? Were can I get this connector? Were can I get a new section of belt? If I want to cut the longer belt, is there any trick to installing the metal eyes on the ends? What should I use for a belt dressing? I would be very thankful for any help on this.

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Fred Martin

01-20-2000 22:35:38




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 Re: Flat belts in reply to Fred, 01-10-2000 11:17:34  
Worked with a feller once that was a bridge welder and noticed that he was kinda clumsy when he picked up a welding rod. So, one friday (payday) we went to the tavern down the road to unwind from a weeks work and have a little friendly conversation. I had to be nosy and ask him what happened to his hand. He told me that when he was a boy they were cutting wood with a buzz saw. He had a overall jacket on (unbuttoned) and the saw wind pulled it into the saw and cut his arm off. He was lucky that they sewed it back on. I wished many times that I had never asked. Fred from the Mung Factory

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Both BLADE BELT are.....

01-11-2000 17:08:21




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 Re: Flat belts in reply to Fred, 01-10-2000 11:17:34  
Fred: Both BLADE and BELT can be a danger. The old belts may split and if part comes loose it can start slapping anything in its path. That a bad deal just as the cutting blade can be a danger too.. Go ahead and fix it and use it but try to be EXTRA safe at first untill you get some experiance with it. It can cut lots of wood quickly. I know as I had to help feed a similar saw many years ago. harvey

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Fred

01-12-2000 07:45:17




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 Re: Re: Flat belts in reply to Both BLADE BELT are....., 01-11-2000 17:08:21  
Thanks for the advise, Harvey. Just looking at the saw tells you that extreme caution is required. I guess that is why the saw has a nick-name of "Widow maker".



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paul

01-12-2000 08:12:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Flat belts in reply to Fred, 01-12-2000 07:45:17  
These days I hate reading a manual for anything new - even an electric shaver has more of the manual dedicated to silly warnings than on how to use it.

The 2 most dangerous items on my farm are the chain saw & the circle saw on the tractor. Here in MN we cut wood in winter, so footing is never good, & there we stand, pushing wood into a big saw blade....

If you are piecing one together, be sure the saw blade locks on properly to the shaft. Many years ago a neighbor had one where the nut came loose, the saw blade came off, & cut his leg off at the hip. He bled to death before help arrived.

--->Paul

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John

01-10-2000 21:56:55




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 Re: Flat belts in reply to Fred, 01-10-2000 11:17:34  
You can get leather belting from Mcmaster-Carr.



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Skip

01-11-2000 05:18:13




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 Re: Re: Flat belts in reply to John, 01-10-2000 21:56:55  
You can get all types of belt "lacing" from Mcmaster-Carr also. There is a connector for the lacing that has a wire inside of a plastic or nylon material that works,a piece of coathanger wire will work in a "pinch". As someone else said be very carefull they can be dangerous.



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John

01-11-2000 13:11:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Flat belts in reply to Skip, 01-11-2000 05:18:13  
Just why do you think you see a McMaster-Carr catalog in factory in the USA



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Wayne

01-10-2000 14:39:52




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 Re: Flat belts in reply to Fred, 01-10-2000 11:17:34  
Any implement dealer that sells round balers should be able to help you.



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Paul Fox

01-10-2000 13:38:22




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 Re: Flat belts in reply to Fred, 01-10-2000 11:17:34  
Well, I'll help where I can:

The original belt looks quite worn. How do I connect the metal loops on the end of the belts. I was told to use a rawhide dowel. Is this correct?

Yes, a rawhide dowel is the way to go.

Were can I get this connector? Were can I get a new section of belt?

I dunno, but a web search should bring some intereting results.

If I want to cut the longer belt, is there any trick to installing the metal eyes on the ends?

Yes. There's a tool that fits in a vice. You buy the "lacing" in bulk, cut it to length, set the open lacing in the tool, put the cut end of the belt in between the teeth of the lacing, and tighten the vice, which closes the die and drives the ends through the belt and crimps them. The set of laces that go on the other end of the belt are offset slightly so they mesh properly and the edges of the belt line up.

What should I use for a belt dressing?

Not real sure on this, but there should be a spray can type dressing available. You MIGHT be able to use the stuff NAPA sells for noisy fan belts, but I'd get a second opinion on that.

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Burrhead

01-10-2000 14:02:27




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 Re: Re: Flat belts in reply to Paul Fox, 01-10-2000 13:38:22  
TSC has the tool Paul was talking anout. I always like to use saddle soap or mink oil on the belts. It takes a little longer to dress the belt with these, but they will soften back up and should last for many more years with either one of them. They do make a new silicone dressing, but it does'nt do as good in MHO.
Be careful with that saw. They will bite you, and they're not forgiving if you make a mistake and get in to big of a hurry.

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