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Went Ahead And Done It

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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 09:06:54




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Hi Guys,

Pickup up this old Lehman sled the other day while I was in town.

It is an eight chainer, something like 13'X 25' (I think) and is all hydraulic controlled.

I just think it will work out better for me than the gooseneck trailer and a loader at each end of the run.

Allan

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Leroy

01-25-2006 16:42:01




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 09:06:54  
Glad you are in NE and not here as from the size of that thing it would be a road hazard, wider than the pavement on some roads, people here try to pull 10' wide loads and they are a big road hazard and should be outlawed



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 16:51:20




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Leroy, 01-25-2006 16:42:01  
That they are Leroy, can't argue with ya there.

They are a real PITA if you happen to get stuck behind 'em when they are loaded.

Allan



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R. John Johnson

01-25-2006 15:28:57




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 09:06:54  
Allan

Looks good! Does that unit have a single or double axle? Is it PTO driven or hydraulic driven? If your haul isn't too far it should almost be faster than using a truck/trailer and having to unload/stockpile at the other end.

John



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 15:58:36




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to R. John Johnson, 01-25-2006 15:28:57  
Hi John,

Didn't stick my head under the old feller to look at how the axles are set up. It has four large implement tires; two on each side. Looks kinda like a big tandem disc has 'er something. Then it has those 3 sets of double, pivoting ground rollers back under the tail for when it is loading and unloading the stack.

PTO driven chain box with hydraulic controlled reversal and the rail bed is two-way hydraulic lift.

Yep, the way the farm is laid out along section lines, the hayfields are right at a mile and a half from the stackyard, so this oughta be the cat's meow fer my little one man show. :>)

Allan

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Luke S

01-25-2006 10:12:24




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 09:06:54  
Neat machine! What is one of those worth?



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 10:28:50




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Luke S, 01-25-2006 10:12:24  
Prices have really fallen on these old junkers.

They tell me that they range from $500 for the old cable types at the farm sales to $4000 for a "well-used" hydro-drive model.

Those old cable pulls are a man killer tho. I'm too darned old fer that! I just wanna back up, throw a couple of levers and go. :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 10:25:50




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Luke S, 01-25-2006 10:12:24  
Prices have really fallen on these old junkers.

They tell me that they range from $500 for the old cable types at the farm sales to $4000 for a "well-used" hydro-drive model.

Those old cable pulls are a man killer tho. I'm too darned old fer that! I just wanna back up, throw a couple of levers and go. :>)

Allan



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wh

01-25-2006 09:42:23




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 When you bought it - - - in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 09:06:54  
did you go ahead and get enough PAINT for it and the baler?



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Formerly PaMike

01-25-2006 09:18:45




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 09:06:54  
What was that originally for? Moving the old Stackhand piles? I have never seen one of those in PA.



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 10:17:02




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Formerly PaMike, 01-25-2006 09:18:45  
Hi Mike,

They are just a stack mover; doesn't really matter how the hay is put up, but yes, originally, they were designed and used fer loose hay like you say.

I like 'em for the big round bales tho; they really work slick for moving an 11-bale stack.

Never could afford one of my own before, always had to hire the move done; but now that the smaller "in-line" style is all the latest rage, these things are comin' to town in droves and their prices have really taken a nose dive. The dealer had four of the gizmos on his lot when I grabbed this one.

The guys over on the Farmall board say that my 966 will handle it okay. We shall see, 'cause I just cannot stand to have hay left out in the field. Just drives me nuts! :>)

Allan

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RickL

01-25-2006 09:36:11




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Formerly PaMike, 01-25-2006 09:18:45  
how many more of those are availble in your area. Largest in my area is 16ft long.You mean the unit you got is 25ft in lenght. I convert these to selfunloader unit for small square when I deliver to grocery/dept stores.



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 10:20:11




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to RickL, 01-25-2006 09:36:11  
They are all over out in this area, 'cause there is a lot of hay put up out here.

Most every farmer has at least one; most have two or three of the old devils.

Only small square bales we ever see are put up by the horse hay sellers. Not many of those fellas around in this country.

Allan



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RickL

01-25-2006 10:57:52




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 10:20:11  
What is the largest unit and is it on single axle. My pickup is already rigged up to run these units as I have already modified a smaller unit to deliver with. Are any of these units on any spring axles or are they all desighned to be pulled behind tractors. Whats going price for usable large unit.



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 11:42:05




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to RickL, 01-25-2006 10:57:52  
Rick,

I don't really know for sure. The big ones around here are mounted on stretched semi-tractors with cheater axles and must be what? Probably 40', I would guess.

Those hay mover trucks haul one heck of a lot of hay in a load, anyway.

Allan



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RickL

01-25-2006 20:52:36




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 11:42:05  
So the unit you bought does it have spring axles or not. Can't beleive they can be that long of bed and still be just straight truck!!!! Who makes them.



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RickL

01-25-2006 20:52:18




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 11:42:05  
So the unit you bought does it have spring axles or not. Can't beleive they can be that long of bed and still be just straight truck!!!! Who makes them.



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RickL

01-25-2006 20:52:04




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 11:42:05  
So the unit you bought does it have spring axles or not. Can't beleive they can be that long of bed and still be just straight truck!!!! Who makes them.



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RickL

01-26-2006 05:58:09




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to RickL, 01-25-2006 20:52:04  
So the big loaf stacks are still popular out there. They weren't in my area very long at all. Such waste. And even when you use the stack triler for large rounds they will have tenedency to reall rip the netting stuff off. You can get along with the string from your old New Holland if you watch when using these but you will still takes off some of the string. I n your situation The simple trip trailer style does not do near a much string damage. But they do work slick for small squares with some modifing. But since you don't sell it won't make any difference. Everything in my area is net wrap if using large rounds and there is a tremendous difference when using it.

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Allan in NE

01-26-2006 04:06:13




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to RickL, 01-25-2006 20:52:04  
Springs?

Nope, no springs under these things. I don’t think that they even have axles under ‘em other than the implement style stub axles for the dual implement tires on each side.

The beds that they put on the trucks, I don't know a lot about other than they carry one he!! of a load of hay. At least half again as much as these tractor drawn sleds.

I think ToddNE over on the Farmall board has a Freightliner or a Pete with a hay bed on it. Maybe he'll chirp in here.

Allan

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todd in ne.

01-26-2006 19:15:34




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-26-2006 04:06:13  
The newer haymoving trucks have 55ft x 11ft beds on them and usually 3 to 4 tag axles. My old truck had a 14ft x 38ft bed and one tag axle. I avoided highways alot because the guys with the badge always seemed to think I weighed to much. They don't like to slide their portable scales under the truck when you tell them you killed 6 or 7 rattle snakes when you loaded. Crawford Manufacturing in Aberdeen SD biulds these trucks and they arn't cheap 150,000 on up.

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Allan in NE

01-27-2006 04:43:06




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to todd in ne., 01-26-2006 19:15:34  
Thanks Todd,

I knew those suckers were long. :>)

I was looking at the one of Rod's yesterday and it has 3 regular axles and 3 dollies counting the tippers.

That boy hauls a lot of hay! :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

01-26-2006 04:20:25




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-26-2006 04:06:13  
Also,

Forgot to mention that a lot of those trucks can weigh the load right out in the field too.

They aren't as wide as a sled; maybe 10' or so because they travel the roadways, but they are very long back out over the tail because they have to tilt so darned much to load and unload.

Allan



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Allan in NE

01-25-2006 11:39:05




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to RickL, 01-25-2006 10:57:52  
Rick,

I don't really know for sure. The big ones around here are mounted on stretched semi-tractors with cheater axles and must be what? Probably 40', I would guess.

Those hay mover trucks haul one heck of a lot of hay in a load, anyway.

Allan



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IaGary

01-25-2006 17:52:44




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 Re: Went Ahead And Done It in reply to Allan in NE, 01-25-2006 11:39:05  
Hi Allan Your sure doing a lot of double talking.



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