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Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop??

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Dewey (OK)

03-23-2000 10:31:05




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I recently bought 40 acres with a small pond on it. The pond has filled in over the years and vegetaion is visible except in the center where it is deepest. I was wondering what the possibilty of cutting the dam and letting it dry out and then clean the "fill" out of the pond with an 8N and three point scoop would be. Does anyone have any suggestions?




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TroutHooker

07-17-2001 17:21:09




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 Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Dewey (OK), 03-23-2000 10:31:05  
If you are going to the trouble to clean the pond, I might suggest trying to figure out why the pond has problems to begin with. This will keep you from having to clean the pond over and over again.

Good Luck!

TH



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Dave in Mo

03-24-2000 18:02:04




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 Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Dewey (OK), 03-23-2000 10:31:05  
Dewey, last year we drained our 1/4 acre pond because of vegitation overgrowth. I thought that with our scoop and box blade on the 8N and Case VAC we could scrape out the 8 inches of sediment to get rid of the plant root systems. We siphoned out the water with 3" dia corregated drain hose which worked well until we go down to 5 feet. Then we pumped out the rest of the water.
In a nutshell, it didn't work. The sides are steeper than you think and the amount of dirt in those scoops is about 2 wheel barrows. It was like throwing bricks into the Grand Canyon. Ended up hiring a backhoe to come in to finish the job in one day. If you really want to save the pond, hire a big machine to do it. Just my 2 cents worth of experience.

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Tim(ny)

03-24-2000 06:47:52




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 Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Dewey (OK), 03-23-2000 10:31:05  
I've done it to my little pond with a D-17 and HD back blade, but only in a drought when the pond dried up. Even then, I'd have to do a little and let the muck dry up before I could do more. Pretty slow going and that's with equipment twice as heavy as yours. If you really want it done right, my advice is hire it out.



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Dewey (OK)

03-24-2000 08:09:58




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 Re: Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Tim(ny), 03-24-2000 06:47:52  
I appreciate all of the comments. It pretty much confirmed what I was thinking but wanted to hear from people that had experienced it. We've had some pretty dry summers the last couple of years and have talked to people putting in pipelines that have said they've dug 12' down and it was still dry. But who knows if we'll have that again. Thanks again!!



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paul

03-24-2000 00:02:20




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 Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Dewey (OK), 03-23-2000 10:31:05  
I wouldn't want to tackle it with a small Ford either, but it might work depending on how quickly it drains out & the soil type & all.

The bigger issue is if you _can_ do this. Got to the county seat & check all the permits & etc. you will need FIRST. They have expensive fines & restoration costs for trying something like that here in Minnesota at least.

On the other hand, if it is allowed; and you do it THEIR way, sometimes they will kick in 50% or so of the cost...

--->Paul

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Steve Hansen

03-23-2000 19:09:05




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 Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Dewey (OK), 03-23-2000 10:31:05  
I don't know much about this. I have only seen two pond drained as you described for mucking out. In both cases the job was being done with a dozer. The first seems to have gone OK. In the second, however, the dozer was belly deep in mud and going nowhere. Sat like that for several months. Right next to the highway. How embarasing! Must have snuck it out in the middle of the night. One day it was there and the next day it was gone.

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ted

03-23-2000 16:37:52




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 Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Dewey (OK), 03-23-2000 10:31:05  
Depending upon your ground, the pond may have been lined with clay, so if you go deeper than the origional depth, you may have to reline it.

If you can get it dry enough, I don't see why it won't work. It'll take awile with a small 3 pt bucket scraper.



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ted

03-23-2000 16:41:13




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 Re: Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to ted, 03-23-2000 16:37:52  
you also may want to consider to hire someone with a dragline to come and clean it out (if the pond is small enough to reach to the center). This way you won't have to cut the dam. And it'll be a lot easier on you.



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john d

03-23-2000 12:00:35




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 Re: Cleaning farm pond with 3 point scoop?? in reply to Dewey (OK), 03-23-2000 10:31:05  
Depending on the soil type, you may have to wait a pretty long time for the bottom of it to really dry out enough to run a tractor on it. If you get it dry enough to support the Ford, you'd still better line up another, larger, tractor up on the bank with a long chain or tow cable to fetch the 8N out of the mud.



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