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Scott Marc

11-12-2007 06:04:24




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I was looking at a old mccormick side delivery rake thats for sale like the link I attached. I would like to use it as a tedder as well. Is there a lever, or a gearbox I can look for to assure I can reverse this to become a tedder as well as a rake? The seller has it in a position where I cant move it.
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mark1757

11-14-2007 09:28:13




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 McCormick Side Delivery Rake & Tedder in reply to paul, 11-12-2007 06:04:24  

Scott Marc said: (quoted from post at 07:04:24 11/12/07) Is there a lever, or a gearbox I can look for to assure I can reverse this to become a tedder as well as a rake?
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The lever on the McCormick rake that you have listed in the URL is located in the center. It is a three bar.

Move the lever to the left, you're hay raking (windrowing),

leave it in the center is neutral (Transporting),
move to the right, becomes a hay tedder (fluffer, spreader). :D

Mark

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Leroy

11-12-2007 18:09:10




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 Re: Mccormick rake in reply to Scott Marc, 11-12-2007 06:04:24  
First Ktheol is wrong about only New Idea making a tedder-rake, They did make one but so did McCormick, J I Case, Coop, Cockshut, AC and I think the MM was also a tedder.

I cannot see the picture well enough to tell what model it is.

Now to tell you how to tell a rake only from a rake-tedder. If it has 4 bars on and an enclosed gear box it is a rake only as there is only one drive gear in the gear box, it is not big enough for the tedder drive gear. If it is a 3 bar and open drive gears on the axle with 2 drive gears then it will be a rake-tedder. The Larger gear is the ted gear and turns the real in reverse. Now it is possible that it could be an open gear frame that has had the real changed to a 4 bar real then it would still ted. The lever that throws it in gear has 3 positions, center out of gear and to one side for rake and the other for tedding, only will the open gear will you be able to move it both directions, the gear box version will only move one way even tho it is the same part. As to where others are saying it was designed as a horse rake (Only the AC was designed as a tractor rake-tedder) and a horse walked at about 3-3 1/2 MPH, (about the speed of second gear in most older tractors) and at that speed they will still run for years if they have been taken care of, over speeding is what will cause there dammage and they do a good job of tedding if operated properly. Any more questions email me, link is open. I have several of the 4 bar models and a parts 3 bar model with some parts that I could part with, Dealers no longer can supply even teeth and I do have books on them.

A few years ago I was buying them for some Amish and the 3 bars were in the $150 range (They are still using them) and I have several 4 bar rakes here to rebuild when I get the time as they will still sell in the up to $300 range, one setting here is a repair job. The New Idea rake-tedder will sell up to $500 in good working condition, John Deere 4 bar that is a rake only $400. These figures are a few years old now but I don't think they have come down as they are getting scarcer all the time for the Amish to find. Tried earlier but would not go thru. Lot of good information on this site but also some that is completely wroung.

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Harold Hubbard

11-12-2007 16:47:56




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 Re: Mccormick rake in reply to Scott Marc, 11-12-2007 06:04:24  
It looks just like the old three bar rake we used for years, which is now rusting away in the fence row. It will work as a tedder, but it is hard on it. There should be a small lever about in the middle of the front frame with three positions, rake neutral and ted. On the axle is a sliding dog which will pick up either a large or small gear to drive the reel in opposite directions. We used to break at least one bar every year, after we got a real tedder we never broke another one. The reel turns about twice as fast in tedder mode as it does when raking, and I think that was the cause of the problem. The fact that it was designed as a horse drawn implement and we pulled it with a tractor could have had something to do with it as well.

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Charlie M

11-12-2007 16:56:34




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 Re: Mccormick rake in reply to Harold Hubbard, 11-12-2007 16:47:56  
I use one of these old rakes all the time and you're right - tedding is hard on them, especially with all the years of outdoor exposure on them. I wouldn't recommend using it as a tedder - a real tedder does a much better job. They are a good rake for normal raking and if the tines all there they can probably be bought for next to nothing.



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Ktheo1

11-12-2007 16:07:26




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 Re: Mccormick rake in reply to Scott Marc, 11-12-2007 06:04:24  
I may be wrong but the only old rake that could be used as a tedder was a New Idea.There may be others but I am not aware of them



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JMS/.MN

11-13-2007 13:41:33




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 Re: Mccormick rake in reply to Ktheo1, 11-12-2007 16:07:26  
The pto rake that AC made from about 1947 through the 50s was a Hi-Lo speed with a reverse gear for tedding.



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