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Fixed Chamber Round Balers

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Agco

12-06-2007 18:24:40




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Need some advice on fixed chamber balers. Which ones work best? How expensive are they compared to a variable chamber baler? Will they bale faster than a variable? Are they easier to operate? Need advice. Thanks




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Seth_ia

12-09-2007 10:41:37




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 Do you want any Leaves left? in reply to Agco, 12-06-2007 18:24:40  
Fixed chamber balers knock off a ton of leaves. There is a bunch of research that says backs it up. For grass I'd say okay, but I'd let my hay get rained on before using one on alfalfa.



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RodInNS

12-09-2007 14:00:44




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 Re: Do you want any Leaves left? in reply to Seth_ia, 12-09-2007 10:41:37  
I think that's absolute bull, and moreso with the newer Claas balers with the variable chamber. With those balers the bale is only tumbling for a very short period of time before it starts to spin. Even the older machines only tumble the bale for a bit before it fills the chamber. Once it does that it spins and compresses so I can't see why there would be any more leaf loss from there on in, and I don't think it's much at the start either. You can look at ANY baler and see leaf loss as the buildup is there on the machine. I haven't noticed any more on mine than any other.
I would question the credibility of the research that suggests higher leaf loss.

Rod

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James Howell

12-07-2007 11:10:31




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 Re: Fixed Chamber Round Balers in reply to Agco, 12-06-2007 18:24:40  
After a lot of research on the WEB, we decided on a KRONE fixed chamber baler.

Both of my KRONE balers are used, so they were not too expensive. I paid $2000 for the 1998 KRONE 260 and $1250 for the 1996 KRONE 125. I spent approximately $1000 to get both “operational”.

Bale density is very important to my favorite wife because she does not want the bale to “sour” or build up heat because of being baled too “tight”. She is particular about the hay she feeds her horses.

She is pleased with how the KRONE baler forms a “softer” core and bales 99% of the hay it picks up.

We put up hay with the KRONE baler twice this season and there was not enough hay left in the field to make ½ a square bale.

I will admit to some “first time” anxiety using a fixed chamber baler.

While getting the baler “field ready”, I found the baler easy to work on. It required only 2 wrenches, one of which is a 13MM that fits 90% of the nuts and bolts.

There is a lot of evidence of good German engineering on this baler because it is easy to operate and maintain.

Hope this helps.

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Josh in WNY

12-07-2007 06:13:03




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 Re: Fixed Chamber Round Balers in reply to Agco, 12-06-2007 18:24:40  
I used a Claas fixed chamber baler for several years (gone to doing all small squares now). It worked really well and made some nice 1000lb bales. Only problem was the cutter for the netwrap didn't work and you had to stop and cut the wrap by hand. Cost a little time but I was still able to bale 25 to 40 bales in an afternoon of work.

The hay had to be rolling in the chamber for the windrow to feed in correctly. This helped pack the centers of the bales tighter than some of the variable chamber balers that I've seen.

One trick that I learned is that you should feed the hay into the sides of the pickup instead of the middle. This helps to make a nicely shaped and solid bale that is easy to handle and stack.

Hope this helps you out,

Josh in WNY

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RodInNS

12-06-2007 20:19:11




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 Re: Fixed Chamber Round Balers in reply to Agco, 12-06-2007 18:24:40  
Claas. More expensive by a bunch. Yes, tehy bale faster... by a bunch. They're about idiot proof to operate.... just about.
The only shortcomings I've found in my old Claas 44S is that it doesn't do so well in straw. The stuff is too slipery to spin the bale. We've changed a bunch of rollers now due to rock damage. I can only imagine the damage that similar rocks would have done to a belt baler. Other than that, they're a high capacity machine; the Caddy of balers.
Some people don't like the style of bales they make and complain about the bale density. I've never found either one to be a particular problem. If you want the highest capacity in tonnes per hour at the lowest operating cost over the long haul I suspect that you will find 'the other green' will do the job better than any. Personally I would not consider any other baler.

Rod

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