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dave2

02-04-2008 04:20:03

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Hey folks,

I'm in Germany, but it's easier to get my question answered here (language barrier).

I have to buy hay for the horses. I have one guy that I get small bales from, but have to buy round bales also (20-30 per year). I found someone

a mile away that has about all I need in 5ft diameter bales. The stuff I got this year was put up with the attention of feeding it to cows so is sliced in about 8-10 inch sections before it is wrapped in a net (no strings).

The 5ft bales are too big for me to store at my place and the cut hay is a real PIA to deal with. I want him to bale the hay uncut in 1 meter bales because I can store them at my place easier. He doesn't bale himself, so is real hardheaded about changing afraid of loosing money.

My question is:
driving the machinery over a field, rolling and cutting the hay, and spitting out a 5ft bale costs $x.

How much more expense would there (other than net) be in driving across the same field, rolling (without cutting) the same hay, and spitting out a 1meter bale?

I understand it would take a little more time and some more wear on the machine (which should be more than offset by not cutting), but is there anything else?

I'm trying to do some Monkey math before I make him an offer.

Thanks, Dave

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dave2

02-06-2008 00:48:07

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to wally b, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

gary tomaszewski said: (quoted from post at 20:26:51 02/05/08) Dave, You seem to be the one with the thin skin, re: your replies
to Allan and I. Why is it a shock to you that the owner of what
you wish to buy would want to keep the price of HIS product up,
you're asking him to change HIS operation to please you? Many
of the others, have told you they AND I would build what you
want but at a premium over what we already know we can sell.
The better option might be to talk with the owner and baler
operator together to see what could be done, AND what THEY
would charge NOT what YOU would offer.

Turns out that when I originally mentioned what I wanted to him that I didn't make myself clear (didn't with you folks either, so imagine trying it in a different language :shock: :shock: )

My wife ran into him and his wife yesterday and the subject came up. He wasn't hearing what I thought I was saying I guess. He's not sure about 1 meter rolls, but offered 1.2 meter uncut rolls for half what I paid for 1.5 mtr cut rolls if I take mine from the field and help get his in. Happy ending for everyone because the fields are halfway between our places.

Not sure just what my wife said, but he's got acouple of small places that he usually just mows and leaves lay because of equipment size that he said if I'd mow, rake, and pick up afterwards, he'd bale with his small square baler and I could have it for free.

Sorry to get everyone spun up, but enjoyed the conversation.

Thanks, Dave

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dave2

02-05-2008 05:46:26

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

We'll come up with something. In the worst case, just have it uncut and and live with the size. Outside storage is an option I don't like but can deal with. Setting the bales on pallets and covering it will minimize the loss, but mice and hamsters riddle hay here. Another reason for staying with this guy is that he is close by and has several pieces of pasture that I could use if he gets tired of mowing them. I can get hay from another guy that will make anything from 80cm-1.8 mtr rolls, and also makes the big 4x8ft square bales that are subdivided 5 times. All for a reasonable price, just farther away. Plus side here is I could prepay and pick it up as I need it, down side is 50 mile RT and no benefit to my community. Plus side for for the local guy if we work out a deal is paid in full in advance (as soon as the stuff is baled without being rained on) without advertising or talking on the phone, extra available indoor storage (if he can size them so that I can handle them at my place), a bottle of Jack Daniels, and help with the transport from the field. Not sure what the downside is, but I'm sure he's smart enough to find something to keep the price up :shock: I will find out what the baler is and pick up a roll of netting to head off the material argument.

Andrew, as far as what the bale looks like, imagine an onion sliced/diced then packed back in the outer skin. Looks like a pretty yellow onion until you split the skin and it's all over the plate.
Scott, I'm about 40 miles as the crow flies east and a little south of Gelnhausen in the Infantry land. Most of those places (to include Fulda, Friedburg, Budingen, Hanau) are closed now. I live in the Schweinfurt community and work in Bamberg.

Vaslim, it sounds real good until you have to deal with a small work area and the mess it creates. It's perfect if you have the floor space and the feeding arrangement to just roll the entire thing out and just push what you need within reach of the animals. Real handy for rabbit stalls too.

Ever watch a little kid roast a marshmallow and how proud they are to take it to mom or go somewhere to eat it, then see the mixed dissapointment and rage on their face when the shake too hard and the thing drops on the ground because the middle was too loose and it takes him forever to clean/eat up the mess? Well, I'm the kid, my tractor/frontloader is the stick, and the bale is the marshmallow just before I get it where I want it 80% of the time.

Just for comparison, picture the area most of you would have to handle a house, barn, workshop, 3 stalls with paddocks, 6 other stalls, a utility room, a tack room, a driveway, and parking for a tractor, horse trailer, pickup, and two small trailers. and still have a front porch and room for a little grass and flowers around the house and some grass for the dogs. Our entire place is about 50ft by 200 ft, so every little convenience helps.

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gary tomaszewski

02-05-2008 19:26:51

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-05-2008 05:46:26

Dave, You seem to be the one with the thin skin, re: your replies to Allan and I. Why is it a shock to you that the owner of what you wish to buy would want to keep the price of HIS product up, you're asking him to change HIS operation to please you? Many of the others, have told you they AND I would build what you want but at a premium over what we already know we can sell. The better option might be to talk with the owner and baler operator together to see what could be done, AND what THEY would charge NOT what YOU would offer.

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hayray

02-05-2008 03:46:17

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

I can't beleive the firestorm that this innocent logical question created. Those of you that are hesitant to take special orders probably don't do a lot of custom baling. I do a fair amount of custom baling and make good money doing it and it is just like any other business in that you have to provide a service the customer wants, in this case not that difficult to do.

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Andrew Youngman

02-04-2008 19:20:14

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PHOTO'S OF THIS HAY - ANYONE ELSE. I actually can't imagine what is happening to these bales? Chopped round bales that are then put into a net? Netwrapped? I can't get what is happening.

I know what the bale looks like isn't the issue but I am curious.

I guess if somebody is selling 30 bales and you want them a little smaller - then either he will or won't. I might on a certain job, and maybe not on others. If the hay is hard to start maybe I wouldn't want to start an extra 10. With todays new balers it shouldn't be a problem though.

Hay is easy....

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VaSlim

02-04-2008 18:36:32

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Am I the only one who read Dave2's description as a segmented bale held together only by the net wrap?

Been times I wished some of the bales i've bought were that way.

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scott in SF

02-04-2008 17:44:28

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

hi dave2, in my 3rd Armoured Division days (1982-1984)I lived in Gelnhausen, loved Germany and the German people. My thoughts on this is that if I hired some guy to do some custom work for me, and they couldn't or wouldn't do what I wanted. I would find someone else next time.

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TomH in PA

02-04-2008 16:24:25

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

kyhayman gave the answer, you'll need to offer a premium (maybe start at 10%) and pay in advance. But that means a lot of risk for you because he already has your money. Another alternative is to change something at your end so you can use the 5 foot bales.

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TomH in PA

02-04-2008 16:27:49

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to TomH in PA, 02-04-2008 16:24:25

Of course I meant 10% premium per ton. Not per bale, because they'll weigh about 1/3 that of a full sized bale

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JK-NY

02-04-2008 15:48:51

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Here's a couple more thoughts - your round bale supplier is hiring his hay baled - probably pays by the bale to have it done. That amount per bale will probably not change if smaller bales are made . To answer your question specifically, if the bales are 1/3 smaller, the total cost of the custom work baling will increase 50% (30 750# bales = 45 500# bales by weight). It will be a bigger pain in the a$$ for the person doing the balin g (more time spent wrapping and ejecting more small bales than usual) - if he even has a round baler with the capacity to make a good smaller bale. So I wouldnt look for any price concession there. They will be smaller (contain less hay) so your seller will sell you more bales to give you the same amount of hay in tonnage. As mentioned there may be little demand for these bales if you dont want them - so the others have given you sound advice- 1) expect to pay a premium when considering what the smaller bale would weigh compared to a full sized bale.You may not even get them any cheaper. 2) expect to offer to pay ahead of time at least half the money so you take some of the risk caused by your special conditions , not the supplier 3) If this seems unacceptable to you , dont expect to have it done your way. You may be better off getting a bale fork that would handle the bales he has .

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dave2

02-04-2008 11:20:34

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to Rtt, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Allan In NE said: (quoted from post at 12:03:16 02/04/08) Am I missing something here?

He said the hay was already baled in 5' bales. Grand sum of 25 or 30 bales no less.
It's the first of February, dead of winter and he wants this guy to go back and re-do the bales to fit him. ?????

Or am I totally reading this wrong?

Allan

Sorry if I wasn't clear..... I bought him out this past year and want to buy him out next year but in smaller rolls. Hope that makes you a little friendlier :lol: :lol: :lol:

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dave2

02-04-2008 10:57:54

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to mark, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

paul said: (quoted from post at 11:09:15 02/04/08) Cut or uncut - I'm not familiar with that 'here' in southern Minnesota. Would that be like crushing or conditioning the hay?

--->Paul

I believe it's cut as it rolls, but I'm not sure now. As far as the machine, the guy that does his baling bales smaller ones also. I think the problem is mostly that he wouldn't know what to charge me. I'm sure he'll figure something out, but I want to have an idea if the offer is fair. Places (especially meadows) in this area are probably what some of you would consider a big yard. 10-15 5ft rolls is about what you get from a piece. This past year I bought all he had left (30 rolls) after his needs, and he stored it and lets me pick up as I need it. He's only a mile away, but it's a nuisance for both of us because we both have day jobs. I can take smaller rolls home right away and get them up in my barn. Freeing up two big bays in an equipment shed for him. I'd talk with the guy that does the baling, but don't want to go behind the guy's back. We'll come up with something though, I'm sure.

Thanks, Dave

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paul

02-04-2008 16:15:28

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 10:57:54

I think the biggest stumbling block is that this involves 3 people, not 2. Someone else mentioned this. The guy doing the baling will have about the same time involved and a bit more wrap, so he will charge the same per bale whatever size is desired.

That leaves the owner, whom you are dealing with - in the middle. Will you pre-pay, then he can work on this. If you don't, he will end up with a bunch of smaller bales that 'other people' will pay less for because it's less hay per bale, but cost him as much to have custom baled. It is also possible the owner is having difficulty finding someone to do the baling, and does not wish to rock his boat by making special requests of the baler fella. Stuff like that which you perhaps haven't thought of.

The 3-way split is what makes this difficult. We're not sure how you appoached this so far, and of course we all think of the dumbest person who ever appoached us with a special request.... ;)

Surely you will get it worked out, if you are thinking about this from the other people's point of view. Sounds like you will sit down with the owner, & if you are open to his concerns on how this could hurt him, then it can be worked out. I too look at special requests as a way to do better; but sometimes the person doing the request doesn't realize why the special request will make things more difficult & cost more....

--->Paul

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kyhayman

02-04-2008 10:42:35

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

I agree with the concern about fixed verses variable chamber balers. If his contractor uses a fixed chamber baler then what you get is what you get. If its variable size it shouldnt be a problem.

To me, a fair offer is to offer to pay the same for the smaller bale, paid in advance. If you need to sweeten the deal offer him the same money for the smaller bale as a bigger one plus offer to pay a premium of what the extra net wrap costs. It really is a question of convenience and sometimes that brings a premium. I repectfully differ with some of the other people posting on this. To me, if I have a customer that wants me to make hay a certain way, if its doable, I sure want to do it. Now, that doing comes at a premium price paid in advance so Im not stuck with product but I love special orders. Its something I learned from building contractors, you make your money on the additions, not the base job. Charge low but fair on the initial bid but make sure to make plenty on the add ons and punchouts.

Perhaps an approach of 'what will it cost me for you to do this, this, and this?' I've found most people more than willing to accomodate special requests if I make it clear up front that I also expect to pay them well to do it.

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dave2

02-04-2008 10:23:06

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to IaGary, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

gary tomaszewski said: (quoted from post at 10:06:39 02/04/08) Gee dave do you work for the government, come on to my place
tell me how I should do MY job, in order to make you happy, I
agree with Alan. This is what I have for sale, for this price, If you
don't want it the gate swings both ways.

Seems I hit a sore spot..... ..... .... Hope you never have to depend on personality and flexibility to earn a living, or at least, you are the only one offering a product. Or else sooner or later the taxes I pay from my government job will be supporting you (unless you sell out to a developer or hire someone else to run your place).

I appreciate the constructive input that I got so far, should help me come up with a fair deal with him. There is another option that brings up another question though.
For those of you that custom bale for others, how do you charge?

Thanks again,

Dave

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flying belgian

02-04-2008 20:14:05

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 10:23:06

$1.00 per minute from the minute I leave my driveway to the minute I return to my driveway.

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RodInNS

02-04-2008 14:29:53

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 10:23:06

"For those of you that custom bale for others, how do you charge"

By the hour. I can't be bothered with charging by the bale anymore because I don't want anyone's half or quarter crop fields that I'll lose money on. A fair hourly rate seems to keep that stuff at bay... and on an average crop it works out about even. Fair for me and fair for them. If they have a good crop that really pounds the bales out, then they get ahead a bit.

Rod

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paul

02-04-2008 10:09:15

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Cut or uncut - I'm not familiar with that 'here' in southern Minnesota. Would that be like crushing or conditioning the hay?

Then the problem could be, if he doesn't cut it it will take longer to dry, & he is risking having it rain & spoil or mold his hay & it becomes worthless. I'm just guessing tho, don't know what 'cutting' the hay does. If it helps drying, then he is protecting his crop & getting it baled in time, and you have little chance of him changing that.

If a lot of people want hay the way you do, someone - everyone - will start making it that way, & charge a little more to cover costs whatever they are, & all will be happy.

If you are _the only one_ who wants hay made like this, then the fella making the hay has a _lot_ of risk, and likely will not bother. If you stop buying - then he is stuck with a bunch of this hay that he had to make special at more cost, had to store seperate, and wait for you to ask for it to be delivered. That can be a lot of extra expense and then you sell the hosrses & he has to sell this special hay for _less_ than the rest of his crop because no one else wants it that way.

That is the reality of what your hay grower is facing. Extra time & expense with little chance of real reward.....

As others mention, his baler may or may not be able to change the size of the bales.

If you plan to be in critters for a long time, you might be better off putting your money into a way to handle the type of bales that are available locally.

--->Paul

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dave2

02-04-2008 07:53:31

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to Steven, Avilla MO, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

If you were my only choice, I guess you could call it gutsy and show me the gate. If there were several others making hay in the area (in my case there are, just a little farther away) that would accomodate as close as possible. I'd think you would appreciate the fact that I wanted to leave my money with you (and pay you a fair price for the extra effort, which is the reason for my original post), and try to make a sale. Maybe they do things different in your area.

Have a good one,

Dave

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kyhayman

02-04-2008 10:50:13

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 07:53:31

I get special orders all the time. In one 30 acre field last year I ran 3 different bale sizes and 3 different twine configurations for different customers. Takes me about 5 minutes tops to change each one.

Difference to me was, I sold each of those 135 special run bales at a 5.00 a bale premium with it paid for in advance. Thats a total of 675.00 that I made for 30 additional minutes of work, not counting that 25 of them were smaller bales than my normal run, and 50 of them were also at lower bale desity and I had more bales to sell.

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Allan In NE

02-04-2008 11:03:16

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to kyhayman, 02-04-2008 10:50:13

Am I missing something here?

He said the hay was already baled in 5' bales. Grand sum of 25 or 30 bales no less.

It's the first of February, dead of winter and he wants this guy to go back and re-do the bales to fit him. ?????

Or am I totally reading this wrong?

Allan

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RodInNS

02-04-2008 14:24:58

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to Allan In NE, 02-04-2008 11:03:16

I believe he is talking about the coming season, not what's already been done...

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gary tomaszewski

02-04-2008 09:06:39

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 07:53:31

Gee dave do you work for the government, come on to my place tell me how I should do MY job, in order to make you happy, I agree with Alan. This is what I have for sale, for this price, If you don't want it the gate swings both ways.

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dave2

02-04-2008 07:20:39

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to Don-Wi, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Allan In NE said: (quoted from post at 08:13:07 02/04/08)
Either get the equipment you need or sell the horses. The problem is on your shoulders, not his.

Allan

Gotta love your people skills :lol:
Thanks for the input. Kinda helps balance out all the friendly stuff. I'm sure we'll work something out though.

Thanks, Dave

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Allan In NE

02-04-2008 07:35:43

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 07:20:39

Not trying to be a smart a$$, just calling a spade a spade.

If someone came to me and wanted me to "special build" 25 bales for his horses, he'd be finding the gate at the end of the driveway rather quickly.

Pretty darned gutsy on your part, I'd say.

Allan

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Allan In NE

02-04-2008 07:13:07

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Trying to tell somebody else how to put up his hay is a totally wasted effort.

Either get the equipment you need or sell the horses. The problem is on your shoulders, not his.

Allan

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Lee in Iowa

02-04-2008 06:43:20

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

I understand your dilemma, but speaking as someone who's made a lot of bales you hate to stop any more often than you have to. It seems like you're always fighting to try and get done in time for something, beating the rain etc. Lee

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dave2

02-04-2008 05:58:26

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to Sandknob, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

hayray said: (quoted from post at 06:37:58 02/04/08) I understand that you want a smaller bale so ease of movement and storage, and this can be done as long as he has a variable chamber baler. The soft core balers only make one size. I am not sure why you do not want the slicers in the baler to be engaged. You will get a much heavier bale if it is sliced because it will be packed much tighter. This will make a big difference if you are buying by the bale and not by weight. So you may save money buying by the bale with sliced. Sliced hay will also be more utilized by the horses, it creates finer stems. There will be more labor on the part of the baler operator so expect to pay more to have more smaller bales produced.

Goes back to handling. I can wrestle an uncut bale around without it coming apart on me. If I stick the forks of my frontloader in an uncut bale, I'm good. A cut bale, most of the time, just cores itself and leaves me a mess. I don't have the extra long hay spikes on my loader, that setup is more than I want to spend. I have an old dung fork that has 2ft spikes. Also, I don't have covered feeders, and the uncut bales hold thier shape better as the horses core (lack of better words) them. The horses love the cut stuff, but they work for me and not vice-versa. The baler is adjustable and a roll of net is sold right around the corner from where I work. Maybe on the way to a deal. Nothing but plus's in his favor, just have to convince him.
Thanks,

Dave

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RodInNS

02-04-2008 05:50:24

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Since you are in Germany, I would guess that the baler of choice is a Claas; probably a fixed chamber baler. It will make one size bale. It may be a matter of him needing to get another contractor, or buying another piece of gear to do the job.... and I doubt that they're going to do that to accomodate you alone. I spose if you are determined to buy the hay from him, and he can make what you want in terms of bale size and quality, offer to pay a certain percentage in advance before the hay is made and figure out a cost/price that will work for you. The costs to him shouldn't be that much different to make a 4' vs a 5' bale. There's only a couple hundred pounds in the difference.
I know that around here any special orders are simply dealt with on a pay as you go basis. You pay up front to get what you want, otherwise you buy what's available....

Rod

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Hay DR

02-04-2008 06:16:48

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to RodInNS, 02-04-2008 05:50:24

Claas, Krone & Welger all are from Germany and have variable chamber balers as well as fixed chamber balers. All the 3 also make large square balers.

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RodInNS

02-04-2008 10:27:17

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to Hay DR, 02-04-2008 06:16:48

I'm well aware of their product lines... just stating what I see to be the probability based on statisticts I've seen. Claas owns the Euro market by a long shot, and fixed chambers are the biggest part of that.
You're right that it could be one of the others, but if I was putting money on it, I'd bet on a fixed camber Claas.

Rod

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hayray

02-04-2008 05:37:58

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

I understand that you want a smaller bale so ease of movement and storage, and this can be done as long as he has a variable chamber baler. The soft core balers only make one size. I am not sure why you do not want the slicers in the baler to be engaged. You will get a much heavier bale if it is sliced because it will be packed much tighter. This will make a big difference if you are buying by the bale and not by weight. So you may save money buying by the bale with sliced. Sliced hay will also be more utilized by the horses, it creates finer stems. There will be more labor on the part of the baler operator so expect to pay more to have more smaller bales produced.

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phillip d

02-04-2008 04:39:06

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to dave2, 02-04-2008 04:20:03

Maybe offer him alittle less per bale,than he gets to sell you more bales per acre/hectare,he just needs to get paid for the extra stopped time and netting.Maybe you could make some arrangement where for even less again per bale,you provide the netting,saving him some of the cost.

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Ken Macfarlane

02-05-2008 05:34:54

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Re: Question for the haymakers in reply to phillip d, 02-04-2008 04:39:06

You can turn off the slicer in most balers I think but I wouldn't bale 3 ft bales instead of 5 ft for a 10% premium. You have to stop almost 3 times as often, and handle that many more bales that likely will fall through the bale transporter and be a general pain.

For a 25% premium per ton I'd consider it.

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