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Here's some real fun - can you identify these four things?

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watson524

04-06-2008 18:49:30

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Here's where we get to the REAL fun. We went back beyond one of the fields today into the woods (which I suspect wasn't woods when these beasts were put there since you'll see full size trees growing through them) and took pictures of these. I'd like to get them cleaned out and to good homes if they're of any use to anyone but I have NO idea what they are (except the one that looks like a hoe/plow type thing). I'd have to suspect these things are maybe 30 years older than my other stuff which would mean maybe 1920's or 1930's?

Can anyone tell me A.) What they are? and B.) If they're worth anything (monetary or otherwise) to anyone these days?

The best I can tell this looks like something you pull, that picks up things, uses the spikes under the wooden "beams" to move whatever you picked up up the ramp, then dumps it into something (a wagon or truck?) Whatever it is, it sure is cool looking.

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For this thing, I honestly have no idea and wonder if it's even sitting upright though given the one wheel, I have to assume it is

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This looks like a rake of some sort since there's big "forks" on the front. That wooden plank (not quite JD green :D ) appears to be attached

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This looks like a plow of some sort. The seat part wasn't attached but happened to just be leaning there so I assume it goes with it. I pulled the grip on the handle and the springs actually move free

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I almost feel like I should open a museum up here and give people a toure of the grounds :D

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watson524

05-12-2008 17:10:17

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

Can anyone put a value on the Hay Loader for me? I had someone locally tell me he'd like to buy it but I don't know what a fair price is. I can tell you it's fully galvanized (bottom, sides and all - only wood on the "arms" that move the hay up) and we banged on it all over and it's solid. No charge for the trees :-)

thanks in advance!

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RickL

04-07-2008 05:40:50

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

have all of the units you have

1st is hay loader

2nd is corn binder

3rd is hay tedder

4th is single gang disc

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Jim in Ma.

04-07-2008 05:30:54

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four thing in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

I'm restoring a "New Idea" hay loader just like that. It was in about the same condition as in your picture. I wish you were closer to north east Ma.

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watson524

04-06-2008 19:57:45

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

Bill - I can't figure out how to find your email but drop me a note at ismlv @ yahoo.com if you want.

We're right off exit 17 of 84 and about 20 minutes east of Scranton. Binghamton is less than 1.5 hours from me. 84 to 81 and you're there.

I figure that stuff in the woods has sat there for probably more than 40 years so what's another couple months :D

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watson524

04-06-2008 19:54:13

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

Well, we kept it after it was taken down and I plan to use it for some "decoration" inside the barn along with some old 2 man saws and various other hand tools we found that are in really nice shape.

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watson524

04-06-2008 19:15:10

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

Well something else just came together for me. For years and years there was a huge spike type "grabber" way up in the peak of the barn on a track and on a pulley system. Dad had told me that they'd pull it forward, drop it down and grab loose hay, then lift, go to the back of the barn and dump. 2 years ago we had some people come up and jack up the whole barn (it's one of those peg/slot/hole contruction types) and put a new foundation under it and last year did some framing/siding work. While the guys were up there working on framing, dad had them take that massive "pitchfork" down.... I was sad to see it go but frankly, you knew not to stand under it because who knows when the rope might break. So that system must have been used in conjunction with this other equitpment.

It's nice that I'm finally able to put the pieces together.

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bill again

04-06-2008 19:40:17

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 19:15:10

what you are describing sounds like a double harpoon fork. i have collected several types of doubles and one single harpoon (1 spear). barn equipment companies also made hay grapples that were a set of 4 L-shaped bars, joined at the top that would take a bigger bite of the loose hay than the harpoon forks. you're thinking on the right track.

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paul

04-06-2008 19:57:37

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to bill again, 04-06-2008 19:40:17

The pair of rods with 4 hooks on each side was typically the 'modern' conversion of the loose hay fork.

You can pick up 8 or 10 bales of hay with it & drop them off back in the barn. I ran ours for years, when little pulled the rope back, then drove the tractor, then set the forks on the hayrack & tripped them.

Then I ran out of people to drive the tractor to pull the rope, so had to just stack bales by hand. :)

--->Paul

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formerly ny bill

04-06-2008 19:13:43

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

for the rest of your questions- the hayloader and tedder wheels have value beyond scrap. disk might be usable in a garden but the bottoms of the disks are probably rusted away so they aren't round, making it useless as a disk. still make yard art in nj. binder- probably parts for a complete machine. amish still use them.

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watson524

04-06-2008 19:10:42

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

Wow cool, thanks for the info!
Bill - if you do want that corn binder and aren't too far to get it, you're more than welcome to have it if you think you could use it. No idea how to tell what "too far gone" is.

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formerly ny bill

04-06-2008 19:22:54

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 19:10:42

watson, i'm a little east of binghamton. i think you were north of scranton? email is open.
too far gone in my case probably means it falls in a heap when we try to move it. i just like it because it shows a way of harvest that used to be. i have some old implements- some nice, some rust buckets, but people like to see how it used to be. its just about planting time here, and then first cutting, so it would be a while before i'd be able to get it. depends if you're in a hurry. thanks.

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JMS/.MN

04-06-2008 19:09:37

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

I agree with Bill"s ID. Also, regarding what haynk said about the corn binder- it was also used later in the fall to bundle the remaining corn stalks, then they would be run through a corn shredder, which picked off the ears and chopped the stalk into bedding. All grunt work.

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john bowers

04-06-2008 19:09:37

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

that is easy, they are a hay loader and a corn binder. picks up a windrow of hay and moves it up on a hay wagon.

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petetx

04-06-2008 19:05:46

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

top 2 pictures hay loader looks like a new idea
next McCormick corn binder next horse drawn 2 row cultivator and a horse drawn disk brings back lot"s on memories

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formerly ny bill

04-06-2008 19:04:32

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

the first is a hay loader for pulling behind a wagon, through a field of mowed and dried hay.

second is a corn binder for cutting and bundling stalks of corn. the bundles would be fed into the papec. i'd be interested in that, esp if its a mccormick. it would go good with my mccormick ensilage cutter. might be too far gone to use.

third is a hay tedder, for fluffing up mowed hay so it dries faster.

fourth is a single gang disk harrow, for fitting plowed ground for planting.

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haynk

04-06-2008 19:04:25

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to watson524, 04-06-2008 18:49:30

The first 2 pics ar of a device to load loose hay on a wagon. I have never seen one in operation but pictures I have seen indicate it took a fairly large number of men to operate. I don't think they were very successful.

The 3rd pic is a corn binder. The bug lugged wheel indicates it was ground driven. Partly green corn was cut by this machine and tied into bundles. Then the bundles were taken to the stationary silage chopper which I think you showed in earlier pics, chopped up, and blown into a silo.

Don't know about the next pic, looks like it is missing parts. The steel wheels are worth more as yard art than scrap. One project is to inset the wheels into a welded steel gate.

The last pic is a horse drawn harrow. It also could be pulled by a tractor.

KEH

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flying belgian

04-06-2008 19:12:38

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to haynk, 04-06-2008 19:04:25

Sorry but you are mistaken on the operation of a hay loader. I loaded many of loads from one when working for the neighbor as a kid. you just need one man driving the tractor and one man on the wagon spreading the hay as it is lifted by the hay loader.

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KEH

04-06-2008 19:29:02

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to flying belgian, 04-06-2008 19:12:38

Thanks for info on use of hay loader. We always just ued a pitchfork to load hay. Thought the binder we got was a big step up.

KEH

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gitrib

04-07-2008 09:27:27

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Re: Here's some real fun - can you identify these four th... in reply to KEH, 04-06-2008 19:29:02

The hay loader was a very succesful farm machine. I remember my father using one. It was a McCormic Deering which was different than the New Idea. It was like a big wide elavator. It was my job to drive the team of horses on the hay rack so Dad could place the hay. We would then go to the barn to unload using the hayfork you discribed in the top of barn. I was so young dad had a little cart he would hitch the team that pulled the hay up and into the barn. Brings back a lot of memories.

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