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3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there!

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Jim(UT)

04-28-2000 20:33:05




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Following the leads provided by Larry and Don of this board, I found a source for the part I need. I tried Wichita KS directory assistance, but no Universal Pulley Company is listed. Called Hamilton Equipment of Ephrata PA and talked to Dave the Sales Mgr. He'd been there since the early 70s but had never heard of Universal Pulley. He did, however, look around and pull out a catalog from them dating back to '63. He suggested I talk to Hub City of Aberdeen SD. Bingo! Turns out what I'm looking for is called a splined pump shaft sleeve. Comes in either 1-1/8" 6 spline or 1-3/8" 6 spline female by any number of round bore size on the other end. Problem now is they won't sell to me. Sent me to a couple of distributors in my area who want between $35-$38 for one, but don't have it in stock and can't get just one because of a $50 minimum order requirement. So before I do that I'm gonna check around the net and at c/t to see if there's one to be had at decent price with decent delivery. Thanks to those who helped.

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steve from mo

04-28-2000 20:44:45




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 Re: 3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there! in reply to Jim(UT), 04-28-2000 20:33:05  
Have you looked in the sprayer parts?

The things you just named should be sold as replacement/repair parts to allow a sprayer pump to be moved from something like a ford 2N/9N/8N or older JD with the small PTO shaft to a tractor with the larger shaft.



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paul

04-28-2000 21:26:17




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 Re: Re: 3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there! in reply to steve from mo , 04-28-2000 20:44:45  
Yup, this is the thing they mentioned you could find at the various CT stores, along with most any farm supply store. If there is any agriculture in your area, go to the store where all the farm pickups are parked during a rainy spell. They will have one for you.

--->Paul



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Jim(UT)

04-29-2000 10:06:26




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 Re: Re: Re: 3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there! in reply to paul, 04-28-2000 21:26:17  
Interesting thing is I do live in an agricultural area but there's only 2 ag stores in town and one of those is in the process of going out of business. The other is a NH dealer who doesn't seem to be of much help. Forty miles away (and on my way to work) is another NH dealer. I showed him my problem early on and he was baffled. Claimed the ONLY thing I could do was use an 1-3/8x1-1/8 pto adapter. We don't have anything like a ct store out here. There is a place called CAL Ranch which has "some" tractor related hardware but I didn't see anything that would work and I couldn't find anyone knowledgeable to help me. All the hired help seemed to be K-Mart leftovers.

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paul

04-29-2000 19:33:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there! in reply to Jim(UT), 04-29-2000 10:06:26  
I can understand that. Dealers especially only seem able to look up parts in their brand catalogs, have no clue how anything else works. And come to think of it, when I needed a universal joint yoke, the folks at the CT store were quite clueless too, watched me pick the piece out & size it, because they were curious what those things were used for anyhow... ;)

Hey, most all pto connections I'm familiar with have a universal joint right after the pto coupler. I'm kind of curious how your cement mixer is hooked up that it does not need universal joints?

--->Paul

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Dan from PA

04-29-2000 22:51:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there! in reply to paul, 04-29-2000 19:33:57  
I share Paul's curiosity about the driveline setup as well as his scorn for the employees of CT and it's ilk (don't get me started). If you're truly desperate you can mail-order from their catalog. I have the latest one handy, so e-mail me if you need phone or item #'s.



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Jim(UT)

04-30-2000 18:16:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there! in reply to Dan from PA, 04-29-2000 22:51:04  
I have been looking in the 2000 Quality Farm & Country book but haven't found the part I'm looking for. I assume they can't possibly put everything they offer in the book, so I'll make a phone call on Monday.

As for the pto drive setup, I'll try to describe it, but my lack of experience may cause me to use the wrong terminology, thus confusing the issue even more, but here goes: The mixer drum sits in a cradle made of angle iron and rides on two little rubber wheels. Two braces extend down from the cradle and mount to the lift arms of the tractor's 3pt hitch. Nothing attaches to the top link. There are other braces that extend from the cradle to the tractor and bolt to the fenders. These braces attach to the cradle at the same point as the first braces thus creating a pivot point. Attached to the back of the drum is a rubber tire (15" automotive).

Now to the pto: the splined sleeve is housed in a rather beefy cast iron bell housing that bolts to the back of the tractor over the pto shaft. The sleeve is also pinned to a round shaft on the other end that then rotates a spindle about 8" long and 3" in diameter. When you lower the 3 pt hitch, the rear of the drum comes down until the 15" tire contacts this spindle, causing the drum to rotate and mix up the cement. When you're ready to dump the mix, you lift up on the 3 pt control lever, the rear of the drum comes up and pivots on the aforementioned braces and out the mud comes to the rear of the tractor. Clear as mud? If I ever get a new computer and digital camera I'll post some pics. Might me next year sometime so be patient.

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paul

04-30-2000 18:27:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 pt cement mixer parts...almost there! in reply to Jim(UT), 04-30-2000 18:16:02  
I think I understand that. The pto shaft just sticks straight out as it's own piece, no movement. Well, other than rotating. :) Someone refered to a 'tire cement mixer' a few days ago, didn't know what it was, thanks.

--->Paul



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