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How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging

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marvin

06-19-2000 10:43:53




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I have a sickle bar mower mounted to the back of my Super A and as I mowed a few swaths, I noticed that both ends of the sicle bar mower were plugging up. I had used a hand grinder to sharpen the sickle before I started. The bar looks pretty shiny so I do think the grass is hanging up on the bar. I am running in 1st gear with the RPM's at about 3/4 speed. So I don't think I am going too fast. The hay is about 2.5 feet tall. This is just pasture grass in Western Washington.
I used the mower last summer to mow the field and it worked pretty good then, with some plugging. None of the sickle sections are broken.
Any thoughts?

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marvin

06-20-2000 09:21:11




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 Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to marvin, 06-19-2000 10:43:53  
I took the advice given here to increase the speed and that solved all of the problems. Question; I read here and have read other places about proper registration of the sickle to the bar so that the sickle passes equal distance on either side of the fixed points. I do not see any method on my mower of adjusting this. How is this adjustment made on other mowers.
Question: What RPM do you run at when mowing and in what gear? ( I realize this is dependent on how thick, type of grass or hay and moisture content)

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Ron

06-20-2000 15:03:41




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 Re: Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to marvin, 06-20-2000 09:21:11  
Do you have an owner's manual for your mower? It should tell in there how to set the sickle registration. When it's correct, the section tips should be precisely in the center of the guards at each end of the pitman stroke. I noted that someone said adjust the pressure plates to hold the sickle about the thickness of a business card off the ledger plates. I would adjust them much closer than that. They should be down so that there is no space between ledger plate and sickle section. The ledger plates will wear a little faster but they cut many times better.

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Theman

06-20-2000 11:02:25




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 Re: Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to marvin, 06-20-2000 09:21:11  
Answer 1: The register adjustment on my Deere model 37 is accomplished by moving a keyed bar (round) that clamps near the crank end of the pitman. I loosen the setscrew and clamp and slide the whole bar to the right or left. I had to move the bar over 3/4" right after I bought it. Haven't had to move it since.

Answer 2: The parts book for my mower lists, I think, 2 or 3 different pulley arrangements. [Sadly, I learned this the hard way when the belt broke and the dealer didn't have the correct one.] I must conclude that different speeds were designed for different crops and conditions. Generally, the higher the knife speed the faster the ground speed. Ground speeds vary for different tractors and I don't have an A so I can't help you there. I use different gears depending on the wind, lay of the grass, moisture, and general heaviness of the crop. As F14 stated earlier, the crop falling back over the bar should be your gage.

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Tim(nj)

06-19-2000 20:40:18




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 Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to marvin, 06-19-2000 10:43:53  
Do you have the special knife sections on each end of the bar, or just regular sections? Both my sickle mower and mower/conditioner are equipped with end sections to prevent plugging. They are available at most farm supply stores and machinery dealers.

You probably can find them at this link:



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F14

06-20-2000 03:04:12




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 Re: Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to Tim(nj), 06-19-2000 20:40:18  
Can you describe these special sections? Sounds interesting. I just have regular sections on mine.



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Tim(nj)

06-20-2000 19:45:32




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 Re: Re: Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to F14, 06-20-2000 03:04:12  
Looks like a regular section with a half section attached. You can get left hand and right hand, one for each end of the bar. My MF 31 sickle mower will work without them, but my JD 1209 mo/co plugs up unless the end sections are on the bar.



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Fm

06-19-2000 13:09:26




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 Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to marvin, 06-19-2000 10:43:53  
I have never operated a sickle bar mower, but as the other reply said, I think you are going to slow. Try it in 2nd and see what happens.



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F14

06-19-2000 11:42:57




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 Re: How to keep a sickle bar mower from plugging in reply to marvin, 06-19-2000 10:43:53  
I'm just a beginner, but here are some things I learned both by experience and by asking questions:

Ground speed is important. Too slow can be as bad as too fast. You need to go fast enough to ensure the cut hay falls behind the bar.

Sickle timing is important. The sections should travel an equal distance on either side of the guard fingers/ledger plate.

Condition of the ledger plates is important. They should be sharp, and the clearance between the sickle section and the ledger plate should be set to spec, usually about the thickness of a business card.

"Lead" is important. At rest, the outer end of the bar should be forward of the inner end, by about 2-3 inches, depending on the length of the bar.

Grass board on the outer end, and deflector rod on the inner end must be in place to keep hay from hanging up on various protrusions.

If the hay is too thick or too wet, nothing you do will prevent occasional plugging.

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