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Getting ready for snow....plow question

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Hartshorn

07-12-2000 06:32:11

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I'm serious. I have bought with some other junk a truck blade that I want to use on the snow that is coming... :-) I have a loader on my tractor and I am looking for some advice....to help guide me in building the mount for this blade. I see 3 ways of doing it...build a traditional front mount and mount the blade instead of the loader. Leave the loader on and mount the blade on the front of the loader....build a rear mount on the 3pt and plow backwards. I am sort of leaning towards the rear mount plow backwards option so I can use the loader to remove piles but I am interested in some sage wisdom before I start sparking the steel.

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Kim Hartshorn

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john d

07-12-2000 18:10:35

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Re: Getting ready for snow....plow question in reply to Hartshorn, 07-12-2000 06:32:11

Some of the results you get will depend on what kind of tractor you're using. If you've got a front loader on a small utility-type tractor, you'll do fine until the snow gets deep, then you're likely done, unless you've got chains and/or lots of weight on the rear.
I've had very good success with an 8' wide 40" high blade on the front of an old Farmall SM. I removed the loader bucket, put the arms at the bottom of the blade, and then started welding brackets on the blade to make everything fit. If you have a really rugged blade mount, and a good hydraulic system, you can likely arrange it so you can angle it from the seat.
There is a consideration that the weight of the blade and loader will be on the front of the tractor, and not on the end that's supplying the traction. This can be a problem, if your tractor is too light, or not set up correctly. My tractor has fluid in the rear tires, 2 sets of weights on the wheels, and more on the drawbar. It pushes well at low speed, even better in 3rd or 4th gear when it builds up some momentum. In my situation, the single-acting hydraulic system works well, as the blade "floats" when pushing, and isn't really loading the front of the tractor all the time.
One often overlooked advantage to a loader-mounted blade is that when you DO get stuck (and you will!) raising the loader all the way up puts more weight on the rear of the tractor than you had when you got stuck, therefore it will likely back out of whatever you ran it into!

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Duke

07-12-2000 16:13:08

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Re: Getting ready for snow....plow question in reply to Hartshorn, 07-12-2000 06:32:11

I have a snow plow blade on an 8N that pins on the loader arms in place of the bucket.I also carry a backblade on the 3PT hitch for weight. The nice part of the blade on the loader arms is that you can push snow up and over piles 5 to 6 feet high. In my experience trying to move snow with a bucket is a waste of time - the bucket fills up and the snow won't come out, especially if it's wet.I live 30 miles from Buffalo N.Y.,about a mile from Lake Erie, so I've had my share of experience moving snow. Around here it's not unusual to get 6 inches of snow and when the wind quits I have 4 feet in my driveway. The only downside to my rig is that I can't angle the blade, but after awile you get the knack of pushing the snow of to the side when the blade gets full.

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mark

07-12-2000 12:15:41

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Re: Getting ready for snow....plow question in reply to Hartshorn, 07-12-2000 06:32:11

I have'nt plowed much snow but in all other types of material, mud, sand, gravel and on snow when not plowing it seems to me that you have much better traction moving forward. Tractor tires are highly directional and meant to go forward.

From that standpoint alone I would mount the blade so that I could move in a forward direction.

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B.C

07-12-2000 10:27:02

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Re: Getting ready for snow....plow question in reply to Hartshorn, 07-12-2000 06:32:11

Seems like there were a bunch of posts on this last winter. But anyway.

I grew up around rear mounted blades in Central Wisconsin. My granddad and his brother each had what looked like sturdy barndoors that they drove with the 3 pt hitches on their 9N and T0-30 respectively. Worked fine.

You don't say what kind of tractor you have. On conventional tractors the greater weight is on the rear axle. So that's where the tractive effort comes from. Also, that means the front end is lighter and a front mounted plow will tend to push or deflect the tractor should you try pushing a lot of snow or ramming some aside.

Front or rear, having the blade able to angle about 10 or 15 degrees about a vertical axis can help, depending on what you're doing. A replacible cutting blade on the bottom of the plow is a good idea too.

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Dan from PA

07-12-2000 08:49:01

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Re: Getting ready for snow....plow question in reply to Hartshorn, 07-12-2000 06:32:11

I would definitely go for the loader mount.
Advantages:
1) You will be able to push snow up into large piles.
2) You can put down pressure on the blade to cut through packed snow. Also adds a bit of traction.
3) If you're really clever with the welder, you'll be able to use the loader dump valve to rig a blade angling setup (plowing with a straight blade can be a pain). Or at least retain the manual angling mechanism, if there is one.
4) You won't be running on the snow before it's plowed. This will pack it into ice and make it harder to remove, and it takes longer to melt.
Of course, you'll have to swap the blade with the bucket if you want to carry the snow away, but maybe if you can stack it in piles, you won't need to do that.

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H MN

07-12-2000 07:01:45

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Re: Getting ready for snow....plow question in reply to Hartshorn, 07-12-2000 06:32:11

Kim: Ya don't have to go backards just because its mounted on the back. I have a rear mount 7ft blade on a 3pt hitch on a Farmall C and I can go foward through fairly deep snow with good results. This is for private use, of course, and not comercial use. One can push or pull quite a bit of snow with a rear hitch. I have noticed that if I angle the blade UP I can get DOWN pressure on the rear tires when in wetter deep snow. Ya can't get any chance of down pressure on rear tires using a front-end bucket. Hope this helps. harvey

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