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RichG

07-16-2000 07:43:41




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I have a MF 165 and 20 acres of thick grasses and clover. What do I need to start baling. The 20 acres is all I will be doing and what yeild per acre should a get.
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tim[in]

07-19-2000 00:59:07




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 Re: Hay Baler? in reply to RichG, 07-16-2000 07:43:41  
depending on whether you want to sell or feed the hay. if not selling it i would get a used round baler. make sure it has a starter in it to start the bale. a 165 should handle it easily. there are some decent deals to be found on good 7' mower conditioners . i have and prefer my old a/c pto rake . although an 3 point mounted pto would be better for taking over the road. if you want small square bales then a new holland or jd would be the way to go . they generally go reasonable at consignment sales. i would check amish sales too ! this is a known fact they used tractor equipment and pull it with horses. so you can usually get good tractor equipment the cheapest at these sales .as far as sickle bar mowers get all the numbers off it and check with dealer to see if parts are still available. dealers and equipment lines have been dropping like flies the last couple of years.

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scott

07-17-2000 21:19:08




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 Re: Hay Baler? in reply to RichG, 07-16-2000 07:43:41  
Lots of luck...im just starting out myself bought an old rake for 30 dollars needed teeth. Cant get teeth for it anymore so found a nother one like it and tore it down to make work... Baler... like other replies you WILL get what you payfor..bought sight unseen baler 65 for 150.00. put another 300.00 into it and found out that some of the parts you cant get anymore...Lesson is BUY ONE AND CHECK FOR AVAILABILITY FOR PARTS.. One thing though I now know more about how they work and what to do to make one work after taking it apart and putting it back together...AND IT WORKS!! Lots of LUCK and BE C A R E F U L....

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Nellie

07-17-2000 19:39:42




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 Re: Hay Baler? in reply to RichG, 07-16-2000 07:43:41  
Sounds like there is no stopping you. More power to you if you are willing to try. If you have a lot of clover and thick mixed grass I would suggest a mower conditioner. #1. clover is next to impossible to dry and the conditioner helps alot. If the hay is for horses and the clover molds you may have sick horses for their life time. #2 a sicklebar binds up easy on clover if it is thick. Another point: people usually don't lend their hay equipment out. That goes double during hay time.

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Jogg

07-18-2000 07:41:27




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 Re: Re: Hay Baler? in reply to Nellie, 07-17-2000 19:39:42  
Moldy hay can kill a horse (colic), and can also cause severe allergic reactions in humans. Please be careful.



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bbott

07-16-2000 11:25:42




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 Re: Hay Baler? in reply to RichG, 07-16-2000 07:43:41  
I think BC's equipment advice is right on the money...

For 20 acres you may want to make a decision on if you want to do it yourself or hire it out.

Depending on where you are.. Cut/rake/bale .50 to a buck a bale. Getting it in the barn may be another four bits a bale...(depends on how high and how you've got to buck)

Used square bale equipment isn't too expensive, but you've gotta have a place to keep it and take care of it... plus your time and labor, fuel etc.

Real Rough Numbers on semi-decent used stuff.
Junk will go lots cheaper.

Baler $750 - 1000
Mower $500
Rake $700 (one that works)
Hay Wagon $500 - $1000 (or lots of trips in a pickup) Hay elevator $500 (or lots of labor)

Total $2,400 or so...

Either way you go, good luck and the advice about being safe is the most important parts.

The below is just common sense stuff that you may know already

1) Lot of people have been chewed up by bailers. Don't fool with the bailer when anything's still moving.

2) Pets and kids miles away. (Know a fellow who cut all 4 of his dogs legs off mowing.)

3) Take it easy. Bucking hay in hot weather is real hard work. Probably been as many people killed with heart attacks doing this as number 1 and 2 above.

bb

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B.C

07-16-2000 08:47:10




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 Re: Hay Baler? in reply to RichG, 07-16-2000 07:43:41  
7 foot sickle bar mower or borrow a mower conditioner if you can. Buy one if you got the bucks, but it'll be overkill.

Get a ground drive rake.

NH baler model 68 or newer, or JD 24T or newer.

Yield...dunno...20 maybe 50 bales to the acre depending on what you have to start with.

You may want to get at least one hay wagon with a decent rack to get the stuff off the field. Two or three is better if you're gonna do it all at once.

Be safe.

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paul

07-16-2000 18:38:26




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 Re: Re: Hay Baler? in reply to B.C, 07-16-2000 08:47:10  
50 bales an acre seems low if it's 'heavy' hay, but could be right. In most areas of the country you will get 2 cuttings, 3 and maybe 4 if you put alfalfa in. The first cutting is generally the biggest, after that it depends on rainfall, and can get a lot less if it's dry.

--->Paul



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Tim(nj)

07-18-2000 19:24:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Hay Baler? in reply to paul, 07-16-2000 18:38:26  
This year, 'heavy' hay for me is 170 bales per acre in 1st cut timothy.



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