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Brush hog help, please

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Jim

08-07-2000 12:44:15




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Okay, I've got a few questions, so please bear with me. I have a Ferguson TO30, running a Howse Implement Company 5' brush hog. Everything seems to work reasonably well (for a tractor that old), except.....when I raise the lift, before it reaches full lift, the drive shaft of the cutter starts banging and grinding on the front edge of the mower deck - sounds awful, and I'm sure it can't be good for it. I've had suggestions to shorten the top link (didn't help much), and to install a lift-control device known as a "Zane Thang" to limit the amount of lift (haven't tried that yet). My questions: Is this a common problem with older tractors, or do I have a mismatch between the tractor and the cutter? I had a TO20 awhile back with a brush hog on it, and I never had this problem. Was I just lucky, or did the guys who put the brush hog on that tractor know more than the previous owner of this one? Is this a "..gotta live with it.." type of problem? Would the "Zane Thang" help? Or would I be better off to swap the Howse cutter for a more appropriate unit? Any and all comments are welcome. Thanks in advance for the help.

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bbott

08-08-2000 20:28:51




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 Re: Brush hog help, please in reply to Jim, 08-07-2000 12:44:15  
With the 6' Howse on my MF245 it will hit the shaft just like yours... on the bigger MF 165 it never hit.... -- so --

I just learned to watch it when I lift on the 245 .... after scaring the #^*^*# out of myself the first time I ran the howse on that tractor.. what a surprise.

I agree with the other sentiments that the Howse bush hog is real light. OK for grass but I think heavier work will break it up pretty quick.

I recently saw a Rhino unit that looked pretty stout. 'Bush hogs' may be one of those things best purchased 'by the pound'

bbott

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Neal(IN)

08-08-2000 04:39:08




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 Re: Brush hog help, please in reply to Jim, 08-07-2000 12:44:15  
Jim
I have the same problem with my Land Pride finish mower on my TO-20. What I do is watch as it lifts and put in the clutch just before the shaft hits and disengage the PTO and drive off. If you need to do it a lot this would not be satisfactory. The Zane Thang is a lift control device that effectively gives you position control on your Ferguson so you can set the height of an implement and it will stay there. I bought one for my 20 but the engine blew before I got to use it. There are several people on the Harry Ferguson and 8N discussion boards who have them and love them.

Neal

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Kermit

08-07-2000 20:21:08




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 Re: Brush hog help, please in reply to Jim, 08-07-2000 12:44:15  
Until recently I had a Howse brand 3 pt brush hog that I used with a Ford 3000. I had the same problem when I lifted the unit up too high with the PTO engaged. Maybe I was too lazy to cure the trouble in the correct manner, but I just didn't lift the unit up to full height when the PTO was running. I was still able to lift the unit plenty high to clear any obstruction you'd want to run over with the tractor. On a side note I never had much luck with the Howse brand unit and recently traded it for a new JD 613 with a slip clutch and safety chains. Huge difference in the quality and performance. They say you get what you pay for, and that's probably true. Good luck.

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Burrhead

08-07-2000 16:45:19




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 Re: Brush hog help, please in reply to Jim, 08-07-2000 12:44:15  
Don't belittle your 30 like that.

It does'nt matter what model of equipment you use you'll still have the same problem with the mower pto shaft.

There is not and adapter made to be able to run a bush hog with the deck raised. I wish there was because these boys here usually knock out the u-joints at least 2-3 times per year doing just what you're talking about.

If you lift the mower on up to move around even when it's not running you'll still need to disconnect the pto shaft or you can warp it or knock out the u-joints.

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Jim

08-07-2000 19:12:51




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 Re: Re: Brush hog help, please in reply to Burrhead, 08-07-2000 16:45:19  
Well, that's the picture I'm beginning to get. At least I know I'm not alone, and I didn't get taken for a chump when I bought the thing. The curious thing is though, like I said, I had that TO20 with a brush hog and never had that problem; I used to lift that thing up and drive all over the place. Guess I was just lucky. Thanks for the reply.



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Burrhead

08-07-2000 20:13:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Brush hog help, please in reply to Jim , 08-07-2000 19:12:51  
Don't be rattled. When I 1st got a utility sized 3 pt years ago I had the same peoblem and everybody I asked told me they never heard of that problem before. I had always used a trailer type hog before and did'nt know the difference.

However when I would look at their bushhogs they did have the same deal going.

I have measured and noticed that smaller tractors like a Yanmar or Hinomoto that have shorter lift arms don't do it so bad.

Maybe it has to do with where the true center of the lift arch is located?? Maybe your 20 had smaller tires and/or shorter lift arms.

These Yanmars are a 26' lift arm measured center of lift pins.

These Fords here are 31" center to center of the lift arm pins.

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