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gavin

09-04-2000 07:01:11




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My 1965 MF20 baler (made in France but similar to all other early 60's MF balers I have seen) knots just fine but leaves a crimped piece of twine about 1 1/2 inches long about every time it ties a knot. This is pretty irritating with plastic twine that I dont want anything to swallow along with the hay. With sizal twine it might not be a problem. Is this normal? If not what should I adjust?

Thanks Gavin

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Burrhead

09-04-2000 07:26:47




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 Re: baler leaves twine pieces in reply to gavin, 09-04-2000 07:01:11  
What usually causes that is the twine holder needs adjusted and the knife needs sharpened.

The twine holder is'nt releasing the leftover into the new knot, so then the knife cuts it behind where it was being held and the next charge of twine makes the holder release it.

I would clean and adjust my twine holder because it can eventually get worse til it plugs up the twine disc and starts shearing the knotter drive shear bolts.

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Tim(nj)

09-04-2000 15:08:22




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 Re: Re: baler leaves twine pieces in reply to Burrhead, 09-04-2000 07:26:47  
My JD 336 baler makes short cutoffs when it ties, and I am told that it is perfectly normal.



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paul

09-04-2000 17:46:47




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 Re: Re: Re: baler leaves twine pieces in reply to Tim(nj), 09-04-2000 15:08:22  
As do middle aged New Holland balers. I hear sheep folks don't like that, as it gets caught in the wool. But that was back when wool was worth harvesting...

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Burrhead

09-04-2000 19:40:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: baler leaves twine pieces in reply to paul, 09-04-2000 17:46:47  
It's normal that it does it if the twine disc is out of dragging on a NH. I thought it was normal too until I started having to replace the knotter drive shear bolt sometimes 2-3 times per year.

If it's all adjusted right and the knives are sharp the loose piece comes out of the twine disc and becomes part of the knot instead of being cut off as a loose piece of twine.

If you keep letting it do like that you eventually have to either push the pieces back out of the way to keep it from plugging the disc or be ready to add shear bolts as needed.


If it is eventually falling away from the twine disc so that it won't hang or keep stacking up in it then it would'nt make much difference unless you just don't want the tabs in your hay.

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paul

09-04-2000 23:09:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: baler leaves twine pieces in reply to Burrhead, 09-04-2000 19:40:37  
Hum, the NH 270 has been doing this all my life, 30+ years at ~5,000 bales a year. I was told it's normal to leave the little inch piece of twine cut, it falls away, doesn't build up on anything. I thought it had to do with the way the twine cutter worked, but never bothered looking into it 'because it works.' :)

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Burrhead

09-05-2000 14:26:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: baler leaves twine pieces in reply to paul, 09-04-2000 23:09:20  
I went out to measure the leaving piece on this 68 today.

It has about 1/2" of twine left that can't be adjusted out. It's what stays in the disc when it's through tying the knot.

When this one gets up to over and inch it's getting ready to start stacking and screw up again.

I thought about something else too. If it's working ok and is'nt giving any troubles it might be alot better to use the old "if it aint broke don't fix it" rule.

No matter what length it leaves the string I still aint ever gonna use poly twine again so it's ok.

I used poly twine on the rounds and square both about 6-8 yrs ago and I'm still catching the d****d stuff in the bushhog every year. Not much, just enough to knock the bottom seal out on the hog.

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