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Building a road through rocky soil.

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Paul McKenzie

09-08-2000 07:22:31




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Hello,

I am new to all of this so I am looking for some help. I have a 1982 Case 580 backhoe/loader. My son races motocross (dirt bikes) and I am trying to build a pratice track for him. I have been digging up the soil with the backhoe and trying to grade it with the loader bucket. The process is slow. What really slows me down is picking out the rocks, especially the 80 - 500 pound ones.

I am thinking about purchasing a "Loader bucket Rake" like the one at www.solesbeesequipment.com. My thoughts are that a rake like this would help me lossen up the soil, lift the large rocks up to the surface, and get them into the front bucket without removing much dirt.

My questions are will this work well? Be easier and faster that what I have been doing? Anyone else use a rake like this for this purpose?

Thank you,

Paul

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John

09-12-2000 05:24:16




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 Re: Building a road through rocky soil. in reply to Paul McKenzie, 09-08-2000 07:22:31  
You would probably be better off highering a bulldozer(with operator) to do the initial work and then maintainin with your backhoe/loader. Heavy rocks and road construction are not backhoe type work.

An experienced operator and dozer could easily do your work in a day or less. You then could do the clean up and maintenance.



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JerryG

09-08-2000 19:41:21




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 Re: Building a road through rocky soil. in reply to Paul McKenzie, 09-08-2000 07:22:31  
Paul,
If you want a bucket rake, here is another option. The first site is the home page and the second site is a scan of their flyer. Check it out.
Progressive Attachments Corporation, PO Box 1229 Granite Falls, WA 98252 800 887 4999
website at:
Link
Flyer pictures>Link
JerryG>Link

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Paul McKenzie

09-09-2000 15:23:14




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 Re: Re: Building a road through rocky soil. in reply to JerryG, 09-08-2000 19:41:21  

What rake I purchase is not really my question. Although I do appreciate the information. I am trying to get some feedback as to whether a rake would do the job. If it may harm my bucket like George suggested, then I have to evaluate that risk.

Thank you,

Paul



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bbott

09-08-2000 19:27:33




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 Re: Building a road through rocky soil. in reply to Paul McKenzie, 09-08-2000 07:22:31  
As you're finding out, backhoes aren't very good at roadbuilding... (or building MX tracks for that matter).

I think you might be time & money ahead to rent a small crawler with rippers and 6 way blade for a day to cut in your track and push the rocks around. Then use the backhoe to finish it off and maintain it.

(The time advantage is obvious, the money part comes from the price of extra diesel and the wear and tear on your backhoe from wrestling the rocks)

Heck. Dozers are more fun anyway !

bbott

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Paul McKenzie

09-09-2000 15:18:35




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 Re: Re: Building a road through rocky soil. in reply to bbott, 09-08-2000 19:27:33  

Think a dozer could build a 1/2 mile in a day or two? If so I will contact some people and hire out the job. It took me a couple of days just to get the hang of the backhoe. 100 hours later and I am still not really productive, but I do have fun with the machine and can accomplish much more than I could by hand in a life time.

Paul



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bbott

09-10-2000 15:06:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Building a road through rocky soil. in reply to Paul McKenzie, 09-09-2000 15:18:35  
Generically speaking, (without looking at your terrain). A decent dozer should be able to cut it in easily over a day or two.

I used to ride MX many (30) years ago and helped build MX tracks with the MC club I belonged to. We used a Case 450 mostly, with rippers on the back and a hyd blade on the front.

If you get a local operator out to look at it, they will give you a better estimate that I can guess sight unseen... plus it's been a looong time since I built a track.

(Really), Dozers are fun to operate. As long as your terrain is not steep or otherwise dangerous you'll probably have fun doing it... and when you're done you will have another skill.

But get an experienced operator to spend an hour or two with you and show you the ropes.

bbott

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george

09-08-2000 08:28:39




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 Re: Building a road through rocky soil. in reply to Paul McKenzie, 09-08-2000 07:22:31  
Paul:

I'd be careful using that for large rocks. It's meant for brush and limbs, and may bend or strain your bucket.



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