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Tommy D.

10-06-2000 13:48:17




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I have a 1 bottom truning plow (14") I got with a 24 hp Kubota I bought. It has neither a coulter or rear wheel. Yesterday, I wanted to turn a piece of ground pretty deep, so I put it on my 4000 Ford. I first noticed it wanted to turn the tractor to the right, so I had to compensate. After about 10 passes (all that were required), it bent the stabilizer bar on the 3 pt! I only had one on as I thought it was all I needed - Guess I was wrong. My question is: Did I do somethong wrong? Shouldn't this plow be made to pull straight? Especially since it is for smaller tractors.....

All guidance is welcomed.

Tommy D...

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Mark

10-11-2000 08:38:22




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 Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to Tommy D., 10-06-2000 13:48:17  
Just a note to add my 2 cents worth. Having been taught by my grandfather to plow (who used to compete with single horse plows in the 30's, and was later a Ford tractor dealer) he told me that the plow did the 'straight' part of it. the tractor is just to pull it. However there is a great deal of adjustment to any particular plow to match it to the tractor. As far as pulling to the right (or left), the landslide (opposite the moldboard), should cancel the effect, except maybe if you hit a large rock. The 'drawbar' of the plow, that connects to the 3pth, is usually adjustable from left to right to line up the rear wheel to the furrow previously plowed. The top link is set up so that the plow is level when plowing, but is pointing nose down when lifted up to travel.

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H MN

10-07-2000 06:48:33




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 Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to Tommy D., 10-06-2000 13:48:17  
Tommy: Sound like a mis-match. A tractor should be pulling straight ahead and the implement should correct itself. This ain't a perfect world and for a small patch one might cut corners. Are you sure everything is there on that plow? Missing rear wheel? Landside of the plow correct? Try and find another to have a look at. harvey



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Kermit

10-06-2000 19:24:49




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 Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to Tommy D., 10-06-2000 13:48:17  
When I first started plowing I was using a Ford 2000 with a 2 bottom plow. I put one stabilzer on and did fine with it, BUT an old farmer saw me one day and told me I didn't need the stabilizer. He said when you're pulling the plow it should run straight behind you and not need any stabilizers. Since then I've never used them and I've done just fine. How about it plowing experts, was I told wrong? Do you need stabilzers on a plow?

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Bob in NW Flordia

10-07-2000 07:56:22




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 Re: Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to Kermit, 10-06-2000 19:24:49  
You should not use any stablizers on a flat bottom plow. Sounds like you are trying to cut too much land. Is the right rear tractor wheel set properly? Or is there an adjustment to slide the plow frame to the right? may also be a bellcrank adjustment that would aim the plow point more to the right. Rear furrow wheel is not necessary if you have a long lanslide on the bottom.



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F14

10-06-2000 14:07:57




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 Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to Tommy D., 10-06-2000 13:48:17  
Think for a minute about the forces involved in plowing. The simple act of turning the ground over is always trying to force the plow to the left, which in turn trys to swing the rear of the tractor to the left, resulting in a tendency of the tractor to turn right.

The deeper you plow, the greater the forces involved. My little JD750 has plenty of power to pull a single bottom plow, but it's so light, the plow pushes it all over the place, and it looks like I had a snootfull when I was plowing.

Your Ford 4000 was heavy enough to keep on the "straight and narrow" with a little steering input, but I will say I'm surprised it bent the stabilizer. Using both would have helped, I'm sure.

The foregoing is one reason I'm looking for a one-bottom trailer plow. The lift wheels and tailwheels on the plow should absorb some of that side draft. Or, at least, that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it! ":^)

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Just thought of a hole in my theory

10-06-2000 14:10:23




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 Re: Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to F14, 10-06-2000 14:07:57  
The landside on the plow bottom should take up a lot of that side draft. With enough sidedraft to bend a stabilizer, I'm thinking maybe the plow wasn't mounted or adjusted square to the tractor?

Sure looking forward to some input on this, I'd love to be able to plow a straight furrow like my Dad did...



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Burrhead

10-07-2000 13:21:19




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 Re: Re: Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to Just thought of a hole in my theory, 10-06-2000 14:10:23  
F14 was right.

These newer single and double bottom plows neither one have enough landside to keep the plow any where near straight. It sits there continually pushing itself to the left.

You can put 1 stabilizer on and fix it, but it has to be on the right side. If you only use one and use it on the left side it will make a horse shoe out of it pretty quick.

I don't know what kind of plow some of these folks are talking about. I've had Massey and Ford, and still have some of the old Ford and Dearborne plows from the 50's and 60's and I've never seen one that did'nt ride itself to the left when it's in the ground.

They don't put coulters or rear wheel on them anymore and the only way to keep them straight is with a stabilizer bar. The next problem he'll have is that with a Kubota the front end is probly too light and it will spin to the right when you get it in a pull.

If your in sandy soil it does better, but the heavier the soil gets, the more problem you have.

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Dick

10-07-2000 09:43:27




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 Re: Re: Re: 1 bottom plow in reply to Just thought of a hole in my theory, 10-06-2000 14:10:23  
My plowing experience is not with your scale but a garden tractor. I adapted a 8 inch plow to the three point and the plow would not follow the tractor but swung to the left. After looking at another plow I found the main beam must be angled so the point will enter the groud first. If you let it down flat, it just slides to the left.



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