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Harrows vs. Disk Plow? Confused now!

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Shep

01-19-2001 18:43:25




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Question -
If you were clearing an 35 acre old pine field (stumps 6-24" dia), with gall berry (2" dia) and palmetto (6" dia), soil is a mix of clay areas (low spots) and sand (high spots) what plow would you use?

3/22" Disk plow or 8' offset harrows?

I've been trying to purchase/build a disk plow for a while and today while negotiating with Monroe Tufline dealer he told me for the same price I would be better served with a an 8' set of offset harrows.

I explained I already had a 6' tandem disk harrows (notched disks) on a X configuration. I use these primarily for seed bed prep but in my opinion they are really to light to break the ground without several passes.

He claims offset harrows pull like a plow and break ground better, also reduce fuel consumption and machinery wear. This is because disk plow creates big piles of dirt to be busted up later using tandem harrows, whereas, offset harrows can do the work needed in 2-3 passes.

Confused in FL

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As always - Thanks Ya'll! (Shep)

01-23-2001 22:58:38




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 Re: Harrows vs. Disk Plow? Confused now! in reply to Shep, 01-19-2001 18:43:25  
Thanks for all the insight. I am just about settled on getting the offset harrows.

On the tree stumps, thanks for the concern. I have had some "moments" with them even when pulling them out with tractor in reverse. Most of the stumps are at ground level or only 2-4" above. I just bought a '79 MF 50C TLB to dig holes beside stumps and now I'm knockin' em into the hole then burying them 2-3'.

First approach was to much manual labor -
chop, saw etc. on the roots then pull out with Oliver 550 Dsl. After nearly a year of this I ended up with a big stump pile I have to burn or bury. Not to mention muscle cramps in muscles I didn't know I had.

Backhoe is quite a work-saver. Just wanting to get land prepped before the warm weather so I can plant some pasture. Got a used spreader/seeder that is like new (thanks Karl B), itching to use it! Also need to build roller out of LP tank when I get back with Burrhead.

Again, THANKS!!

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paul

01-24-2001 08:47:25




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 Re: Re: Harrows vs. Disk Plow? Confused now! in reply to As always - Thanks Ya'll! (Shep), 01-23-2001 22:58:38  
If you are working in the dirt now, that will probably work ok for you. For those of us in the frozen northern climate, a word of note:

If you bury things one to two feet deep, it has a tendency to come back to the surface in a few years. We get frost to 4 feet at times, and that slowly works objects upward. For those of us with deeper frost, you might want to make that big ugly rootball pile, rather than bury them & have to deal with them again in 5 years.

We get construction crews that like to bury their 'junk' a foot or two deep. Obviously they are from the south! Stuff doesn't stay buried a foot or 2 around these parts...

--->Paul

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dick

01-20-2001 19:09:03




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 Re: Harrows vs. Disk Plow? Confused now! in reply to Shep, 01-19-2001 18:43:25  
Don't really have an opinion about what is better for breaking up your soil, but I'm rather concerned that 6-24" stumps may hang up whatever it is you're pulling, and you'll end up with the tractor front going up in the air and end up with the tractor on top of you. Whatever it is you end up doing, please consider this possibility. Might be a whole lot better off in the long run getting a backhoe or some such in to root out the stumps before attempting to pull anything across the ground with a tractor.

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paul

01-22-2001 08:10:21




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 Re: Re: Harrows vs. Disk Plow? Confused now! in reply to dick, 01-20-2001 19:09:03  
The offset disk will work up the soil & hop over the big stumps. The disk plow is going to dig in & give problems on those big stumps. Good luck to your tractor's tires, too! You don't have an easy or fun job.

--->Paul



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AGEN

01-20-2001 17:54:33




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 Re: Harrows vs. Disk Plow? Confused now! in reply to Shep, 01-19-2001 18:43:25  
I'm not too sure how well either will clear stumps. But of the three (disc plow, offset, and tandem), the disc plow will defanatly do the most serious tilling. It turns over more soil and deeper than either of teh other two. It would be more likely to cut the little stumps off below the ground as well. Next would be the offset. It can really root up some land for seedbeds, etc, and would do a fair job of plowing out the little stumps. A tandem is mostly for just smoothing already plowed land. Hope this helps.

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Leroy

01-20-2001 11:52:31




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 Re: Harrows vs. Disk Plow? Confused now! in reply to Shep, 01-19-2001 18:43:25  
I would go with the ofset disk harrow, It would be a lot heiver than your present disk harrow and they are made for primary tillage work



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