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Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!)

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planzman

01-24-2001 12:50:55




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The Winter issue of Small Farmers Journal has picures of a midifed JD hay baler that is being pulled by a team of horses and powerd by a gound driven wheel. Any one every seen this or know anything about it. I wonder if this would work with my smaller tractor (farmall 140). I could drag my baler instead of using the pto.

take a look their web page is

http://www.smallfarmersjournal.com/




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Sam Moore

02-05-2001 17:13:16




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 Re: Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!) in reply to planzman, 01-24-2001 12:50:55  
A couple of years ago, at Horse Progress Days in Mt. Hope, Ohio, I saw a John Deere 336 baler that had been converted to ground drive by Zehr's Repair from Cuba, Indiana. The conversion consisted of the addition of a large steel drive wheel on the bale chamber side, along with the necessary gearing, and cost about $2400 to accomplish. Zehr claimed the machine could make between 1000 and 1500 bales per day and needed eight horses up front so a wagon could be pulled behind the baler. Zehr's Repair seems to specialize in adapting PTO implements to ground drive.

Sam Moore

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Phil

01-25-2001 06:47:52




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 Re: Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!) in reply to planzman, 01-24-2001 12:50:55  
I've never seen what you described, a baler driven by a ground wheel but balers driven by engines are very common with the Amish in PA. They can own a tractor (on steel) but they can't pull equipment with it. They can pull an engine-driven baler with horses. They can operate modern equipment equipment as long as they don't own it. I don't understand their rules but this is what I've seen and heard.

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tim[in]

01-25-2001 23:46:05




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 Re: Re: Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!) in reply to Phil, 01-25-2001 06:47:52  
i depends on the order. i read where some in indiana or ohio had someone do the gear work . so they have different machines that are driven by bull wheels and no engines. they drive bean picker, corn pickers and balers with them. the amish i know own and use engines and use steel wheels with the rubber tire tread bolted on the steel wheels so they dont damage roads and rides a little better i believe.

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Canadian Cowboy

01-24-2001 19:48:38




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 Re: Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!) in reply to planzman, 01-24-2001 12:50:55  
Ive seen a few of those balers around, and seen a few working, I think thats origanly what they where designed for, smaller hp tractors could put up hay with the aid of an engine driven baler. Saves money

I have a Ford newholand equipment brochure (products guide from 91) it showed a brand new engine powered baler, I don't know how many they would have sold or if they make them like that any more, Cause any 30 Hp diesel tractor can handle a baler no problems

Heck if it works why not,

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Tim(nj)

01-27-2001 18:58:36




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 Re: Re: Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!) in reply to Canadian Cowboy, 01-24-2001 19:48:38  
As of last year, Binkley & Hurst in Lititz, PA, was still offering new CaseIH (aka Hesston) inline small square balers with engines and tongue trucks. . . on steel wheels.



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JoeK

01-24-2001 16:36:16




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 Re: Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!) in reply to planzman, 01-24-2001 12:50:55  
When I was young we had a neighbor,who farmed his 40 w/horses,put up loose hay....when he couldn't handle loose hay anymore,he bought a baler with a Wisconsin engine(THD I believe),put a dolly under the tongue and pulled it with the team.Ma drove the team walkin alongside,Pa loaded appx 30 bale loads on small wagon behind.Did his mowin and rakin w/team too.



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planzman

01-25-2001 08:41:05




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 Re: Re: Ground driven hay baler (horse powered!) in reply to JoeK, 01-24-2001 16:36:16  
Reread the article in SFJ and the kit is manufactured by "ZEHR", does not give a way of contacting them to make inquires. The baler is ground driven, there is no motor on the baler and it is baling hay.



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