Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Discussion Forum

Sisal or plastic twine

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
agman

02-06-2001 15:39:28




Report to Moderator

Trying to determine wether to run sisal or plastic twine through baler. Bales stored inside so string rot is not a problem. Which is better for the baler knotters?




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
cs

02-08-2001 11:31:06




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
Wait untill you see your cow dead with a piece of plastic twine hanging out her behind and the Vet just shakes his head.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
david

02-07-2001 14:32:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
Three years ago I switched from sisal to plastic on a JD 336. I have seen drastic improvements in bale tying. The baler has the factory knotters, I made no adjustment, just put it in. Two real advantages storing inside, mice used to really damage my timothy hay twine, not so with plastic. The reason I switched was when I went with automatic bale wagons. The sisal just didn't take the abuse. BUT like the others said, it stays forever! Treat it like wire (I also use a wire baler). While you don't have hardware disease problems a piece always gets away and it will wrap around a cows foot.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
bob

02-12-2001 13:20:27




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to david, 02-07-2001 14:32:42  
I don,t like some things about plastic but last two years have had trouble moving bales as twine rots or breaks This on round bales YEs i,m still picking up twine from ten years ago when boy fed Hes changed his mind now when he has to contend with it



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
JD70Jim

02-07-2001 11:20:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
We used to run a 14T John Deere. For 30 years it used sisal twine. When the old girl finally wore out completely, we traded for a 337 JD. The dealer had it set up for what they reccomended...plastic. An older baler apparently does not do well on plastic and newer ones like plastic better. I do know that the plastic has a uniform tensil strength. There are no weak spots in it like I used to find in sisal twine. The knotter may also work a little better on plastic. THE PLASTIC STUFF NEVER ROTS. You do have to pick up after yourself. Also, whenever we used to have a leftover bundle of sisal twine, it absorbed moisture or something over winter and the next spring, you threw it away and bought fresh twine. Plastic twine is good on the shelf for decades.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Tim(nj)

02-07-2001 18:57:51




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to JD70Jim, 02-07-2001 11:20:26  
My grandfather was successful in running plastic twine through a 14T from 1985 to 1990, when the old baler finally died of wear. The replacement 336 he bought (and I still use) has run nothing but plastic since 1990.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
JD70Jim

02-07-2001 19:46:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to Tim(nj), 02-07-2001 18:57:51  
Tim(nj): I kind of suspected that the 14t would run the stuff, especially since I was informed there is little if any difference in knotters from the 14t to the current 328/338/348 series. We always ran what we first used 35 years ago. As we ran sheep there were reasons for that too. I was informed that there is a set up procedure to adjust the baler for plastic (have no idea what that is). Our 14t did very well on sisal. The 337 which we got in 1995 has always used plastic and has performed even better than the 14t on it's best day.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Tim(nj)

02-07-2001 20:38:34




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to JD70Jim, 02-07-2001 19:46:03  
The tension at the twine box has to be adjusted differently for sisal and plastic. In the past, there were two different billhooks used in the knotter. One only worked with heavy sisal, the other was multi-purpose. The parts department only supplies the multipurpose now, and that's the one that works with the plastic twine. There may be some older balers out there that haven't had their billhooks updated yet.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
rhudson

02-06-2001 20:03:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
plastic will never, never,,never go away. it will turn your pastures into a type of trash dump. it will be eaten by your cows it will wrap around their feet and cut into their hide. it will stop up your mowers it will wrap around spindles and rip out your seals. it will never, never, never go away. your grandchildren will curse and call you names for using it. by the way agman, i dont like plastic.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
paul

02-06-2001 19:18:20




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
Plastic never goes away, so if you use it, be sure to pick up EVERY scrap of it when feeding. If you plan on selling any hay, make sure your buyers go for plastic. Sheep folks don't like it, gets into the wool.

--->Paul



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
MoosieDog

02-06-2001 19:18:08




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
FYI - We switched to plastic several years ago, when it first marketed. We will forever be sorry. If you feed the bales in the meadow or let the strings lay anywhere, they remain forever. I'll be quite happy if the day ever comes that I can mow a complete round without removing plastic twine from a clogged mower.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Charlie

02-06-2001 19:15:53




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
While plastic twine is better it depends on the baler you are using. Many older baler can't use plastic.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
BB Butt

02-06-2001 16:12:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Sisal or plastic twine in reply to agman, 02-06-2001 15:39:28  
sisal



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy