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K Smith

02-11-2001 16:47:10

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I'm starting to look around for a older square baler. When looking them over, in general what should I be looking out for. Can anyone give me some makes and models to stay away from. I should be baling 30 acres.

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02-23-2001 20:25:28

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Re: Buying a baler in reply to K Smith, 02-11-2001 16:47:10

I have used and been around IH and NH balers and would say that condition is the most important aspect. If you go by the book all knoters will work unless they are worn out. I have a IH 46 and find it very satisfactory.

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Sam (MO)

02-14-2001 10:29:19

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Re: Buying a baler in reply to K Smith, 02-11-2001 16:47:10

K Smith

We run a model 46, like the others stated built in the sixties. I bale 30 acres also. My 46 work great the biggest thing a have seen it guys trying to bale to fast, that's when I see all the misses. Just go fast enough to have the knotters working correctly. Another thing is storage space (lots of it, 3-5 tons per). My neighbor has a 337, I have used it a time or two, really work great. If you can swing the price of those do it. He paid $3000, for his and the poor guy (me) bought the 46 for $200. The last thing is the older the baler the more you need to stay away from pastic, it just doesn't work well in the old balers.

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B.C.

02-13-2001 07:17:32

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Re: Buying a baler in reply to K Smith, 02-11-2001 16:47:10

Like the others said, probably head for JD or NH. Maybe the deciding factor is, which dealer is closest to you.

Other makes that are out there include MF, Ford, IH. Guess I've heard more good than bad about MF, but I would stay away from the other two. IH made okay stuff but their parts can be awfully high. I've heard more bad than good about Ford. Funny how their market shares seem to shaken out in about that order, too.

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Charlie

02-13-2001 18:23:30

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Re: Re: Buying a baler in reply to B.C., 02-13-2001 07:17:32

Some IH balers had tying problems. I have a model 46 that works very well but I've heard from a number of sources the model 45's wouldn't tie right. Model 46's were made in the 1960's and I don't know how IH balers after that worked.

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mike jenezon

02-23-2001 23:21:38

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Re: Re: Re: Buying a baler in reply to Charlie, 02-13-2001 18:23:30

gotta agree with charlie I have a 45 it don't tie also have a freeman that works good spendy though just do yourself a favor DO NOT buy a case

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Keith B

02-14-2001 06:15:55

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Re: Re: Re: Buying a baler in reply to Charlie, 02-13-2001 18:23:30

What would a IH 46 baler go for? Any ideas?

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Charlie

02-14-2001 12:45:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Buying a baler in reply to Keith B, 02-14-2001 06:15:55

I paid $375 for mine in 1988. It was in very good condition. I think the price may vary alot depending on where you are. A lot of people won't buy an IH baler if they can get a JD or NH.

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Keewaydin

02-14-2001 04:27:15

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Re: Re: Re: Buying a baler in reply to Charlie, 02-13-2001 18:23:30

I agree with you completely. Our 46 has baled many thousands of bales over several decades and still going strong. I, also, have heard stories that the 45s had knotter problems. We're in south-central Maine.

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rem

02-12-2001 05:57:55

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Re: Buying a baler in reply to K Smith, 02-11-2001 16:47:10

Hi,
I've owned several NH balers. The best for the money was a 273. Best tying baler I've ever seen or heard of.
Go NH!!!!! !!

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JLCOOK

02-11-2001 20:09:38

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Re: Buying a baler in reply to K Smith, 02-11-2001 16:47:10

K Smith: For thirty aces of hay, get a baler that is a lot newer than a 14t or 24t John Deere or say a 66 New Holland. I suggest at least a 336 or better a 327/337 John Deere. These balers give a very long service life, but a 14t would be as much as 45 years old and the 24t dates from the early 60s. These balers have almost always seen a LOT of service by now and usually need repairs due to normal wear. For the amount of hay you are talking about, get a reliable machine which means in most cases less than 20 years old. A 337 can bring anywhere from $2500 to 4000 depending on where and when you but. Obviously waiting until late may will mean paying much more than buying today would. I am not familiar with New Holland models but I will say, stay away from anything that does not say either John Deere or New Holland on it. There are some brand new square balers made by other brands which are quite good, but among older models there isn't anything else that can be reasonably recomended.

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John Wagstaff

10-15-2001 12:02:08

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Re: Re: Buying a baler in reply to JLCOOK, 02-11-2001 20:09:38

Hi need parts for a John Deere 14t Baler
Can anyone help?

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TomH

02-11-2001 17:31:35

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Re: Buying a baler in reply to K Smith, 02-11-2001 16:47:10

You can probably find more info by searching the archives. Usual recommendations in this forum are either John Deere or New Holland. What do your neighbors use? They can help with repairs and adjustments if the make is familiar. Also you will want a dealer close by when you need parts, balers take a pounding. Depending on where you live, 30 acres could be a lot of hay; if your ground is capable of 3-5 tons per acre you will need a high capacity and reliable machine, so don't get one that's too old.

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paul

02-11-2001 19:57:25

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Re: Re: Buying a baler in reply to TomH, 02-11-2001 17:31:35

Yea, I'll agree with Tom, that's the good advise. :) Baling small square bales is ALL about tying knots, so that is what you want - machine with GOOD knotters. Your best chance of that is with NH or JD, and then look for one in good shape.

--->Paul

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