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Tredd

04-06-2001 13:29:03




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I've been baling for the past two years with an 8N, a Bush Hog, a Ford rake, and an IH 46 baler. This year I would like to buy an used Haybine instead of using the Bush Hog. Whats a good, reliable, reasonable priced, can still find parts, used haybine that has a low PTO horsepower rating that a 8N can handle? How much should I pay?

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Tredd
South West PA




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Tredd

05-15-2002 09:23:48




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 Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tredd, 04-06-2001 13:29:03  

Thanks for all the information. Instead of pushing my 8N, I just bought a JD 2510 (diesel) and a NH 467 haybine. Any thoughts about what I bought?



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mike jenezon

04-13-2001 10:19:05




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 Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tredd, 04-06-2001 13:29:03  
i bought a 9 ft ih 816 to pull behind a 32 horse long deisel .it is ALL it will pull regardless of what the books rate an 8n at for power the long will run circles around my aunts 8n you might get away with a 7ft but i think you will be in the same situation as i was (i bought a bigger tractor)



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JK-NY

04-08-2001 09:52:04




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 Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tredd, 04-06-2001 13:29:03  

IH made a 7'version of the990 and hesston made a PT-7-7' version of PT10, along with the NH and JD 7' models . I would recomend a 7' haybine and even if your 8n is in top running shape and you are on flat land even a 7' machine is probably going to be working the 8n pretty hard in heavy hay.You will also want at least 1-way hydraulic lift for a haybine to help on corners and miss stones and rough places like woodchuck holes.

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Bill B

04-07-2001 21:08:02




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 Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tredd, 04-06-2001 13:29:03  
Hi, I run a JD1217 which is a newer version of a JD1207 with a MF135D(38hp Diesel). You need about 1800lb hydrualics to raise it. I have seen 1207s go for under $1000 at auctions. Bill



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JD70Jim

04-06-2001 17:30:57




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 Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tredd, 04-06-2001 13:29:03  
The only two possible candidates that I know about have to be either a NH 467 or a JD 1207. Now I have never seen a 1207, arround here everything is just about 9' or more. I have a 1209. I have seen NH467s at auctions occasionally. The 1209 I have uses a single acting cylinder to raise and lower it, plus it has a double acting cylinder to move the drawbar. I understand that it takes a decent hydraulic system, more than 1500psi to raise it. A NH may be entirly mechanical with no hydraulic lifts, I just don't know. I also suspect that either machine is still too much for an 8N.

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Tim(nj)

04-07-2001 11:59:48




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 Re: Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to JD70Jim, 04-06-2001 17:30:57  
The 467 requires remote hydraulics for lift. Be aware that New Holland has recently stopped providing many parts for the 46x series machines. Stay away from any JD 480 series machines. I would not try to run a haybine with an 8N.



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JD70Jim

04-07-2001 12:13:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tim(nj), 04-07-2001 11:59:48  
Tim(nj): Thankyou. That is what I had thought, but I wasn't completely sure. I only know NH Haybines by reputation (it's good) not experience.



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Charlie

04-06-2001 16:24:45




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 Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tredd, 04-06-2001 13:29:03  
I've seen old, mechanically sound NH haybines go for under a $1000. I using a Farmall M on my 9 ft haybine. I don't know the horsepower of an 8N but my M has about 32 horsepower and it works OK although I wouldn't want to have any smaller tractor on it. A 7ft haybine would run easier. If you are willing to spend the money a haybine is superior every time to any sickle bar mower and hay crusher. However you can run a sickle bar and hay crusher with only about a 20 horsepower tractor.

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sammy the RED

04-06-2001 17:06:47




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 Re: Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Charlie, 04-06-2001 16:24:45  
There is a big differance between a Farmall M and a 8-N Dorf.



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Alan Farley

04-06-2001 15:45:20




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 Re: Haybine - How much and which one? in reply to Tredd, 04-06-2001 13:29:03  
I have used my neighbors 7' JD before and somebody told me to have at least 35 PTO horse to run it. Sounds right to me. We were using a 53 horse JD 2020 which handles a 9' ok. I doubt if the 8N will be able to run a haybine. How many acres are you bailing? For under 10 acres you probaly should get a sickle mower and a conditioner. Yes, I know it is a extra trip across the field but if you can get somebody to pull the conditioner behind you can get by. You can get one a a auction for $10-$20 that still works good.

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