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How old are these mowers????

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Houndman

06-01-2001 19:16:38




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Howdy,

I am in a fight with the village that I live in. They are claiming that my McCormick #6 horse mower and my New Idea #10 horse mower (both are in working order)are not antiques so I have to get rid of them. If anyone could help me out and give me a year when these were made will be a big help with my fight with these morons.

Thanks much,

Houndman




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How'd the meeting turn out ????

06-05-2001 16:11:14




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 Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 19:16:38  
I'd hit your town hall and request under the "freedom of information act" copies of all the ordanances, and a copy of the Master Plan, you'll have to pay for the copies. Then read, read, read, then find all the violators, go to the next meeting and scream Discrination !!!! You're in a small town, so it shouldn't be hard to find out who's related to the Chief, and the Board members. I can almost guarantee you'll find something there.

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Nathan

06-04-2001 08:02:50




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 Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 19:16:38  
Call 717-543-5136. Its an antique McCormick dealer that deals in mowers and turd-tossers etc. I hope I'm not too late with the info. Good luck and tell them to kiss your butt for me.



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Paul

06-02-2001 18:33:35




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 Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 19:16:38  
I know of a situation involving a guy who buys/sells/trades old farm equipment. He has quite a display in his front yard, in an otherwise nice neighborhood. The neighbors complained, and the authorities sent notice for him to cease and desist. He went to a board meeting with facts and figures, claiming they were shutting down his livelyhood. They left him alone - he still displays them prominately in his front yard. You might consider that approach. Hang a for sale sign on it and put it in the front yard! Price it high enough that it won't ever leave.

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Steven M

06-02-2001 06:09:53




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 Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 19:16:38  

If they dont like your old mowers,why dont you go out and get a manure spreader,and put a good load on it.Im from Wisconsin also and the way cows are going out of our state cows and manure will antique soon



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Alvin[NE WI]

06-02-2001 10:48:04




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 Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Steven M, 06-02-2001 06:09:53  
I like your answer.. If the powers that be only want one piece, than get a tank spreader,filled with the liquid stuff, I would even donate a load, stir it up every friday night and take off for the weekend!!! that will clear up their sinus. Every body is got a different opinum of antiques and how old.



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Joe Evans

06-01-2001 22:03:43




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 Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 19:16:38  
Can't help you on the New Idea, but the McCormick #6 was built from 1914 to 1934.



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Jerry \ LA

06-01-2001 20:03:58




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 Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 19:16:38  
where are you located?? what is the problem??? are they claiming they are unsitely??



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Houndman

06-01-2001 21:33:23




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 Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Jerry \ LA, 06-01-2001 20:03:58  
Ok, here is the entire background on what is going on to this point.

I live in a small village of around 750 people in Wisconsin and I have always been a fan of horse drawn farm equipment and I finally have a job where I can afford to begin a collection of items. When this all began 3 weeks ago, I had 7 mowers, a hay tedder, a sulky plow, and a 2 mule, left hand turn plow in my back yard.

I was notified by the Chief of Police (we only have one cop) that he has been getting complaints from everyone around me about the "junk" that I had. Granted, only 1 of the mowers (the #10 New Idea) was painted all nice and pretty and I was working on the others (I'm using a small yard shed for a shop and I have to tear everything apart outside.) So to keep the piece I hauled everything out of town to a buddies place except for the painted mower and the sulky mower (that's my project at this time.)

Well, 3 days back, I came across the #6 McCormick mower all painted up and in working order at a heck of a good price. Needless to say it found it's way to my house.

I was just informed by the cop tonight that I was still in violation of the ordinance dealing with junk and I needed to get rid of everything except one item that I can use as a lawn ornament.

I pointed out to him the house 1 block over where the owner had 5 old gas pumps restored and sitting outside of his garage so I asked him why he was allowed to keep them when he wasn't pumping gas and I had to get rid of my mowers when I could hook up a team at anytime and go mowing. He informed me that the pumps were antiques and my mowers were not. I then pointed out the ordinance stating that "farm equipment may be kept in the village limits as long as it was in working order." He then told me that didn't apply to me because I lived in a residential area.

The monthly village board meeting is this coming Monday night and I'm loading both barrels with rock salt for this fight. I'm writing up a letter to the board (that's the reason for needing the years on when these mowers were made) along with copies of the ordinance for them to read. I'm also taking off from work so I can dig in my heels.

Ganted, I should get a small place out of town and tell them to kiss-off but it's cheap living here compaired to what land prices are out in the country.

I hope I haven't bored anyone with this long winded explanation but you did ask. :-)

Have a good one,

Houndman

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F14

06-02-2001 08:54:28




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 Re: Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 21:33:23  
I think I would be forced to invite these folks to explore the joys of single participant reproduction...



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LazyHorse

06-02-2001 10:42:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to F14, 06-02-2001 08:54:28  
Fawteen thats basically what I did with my zoning violation on livestock, which has cost us over $50,000 so far and is scheduled for a finding against us in the county kangaroo court next month. As far as I am concerned this country sucks anymore because of the double standards set up for the working class as opposed to the politically & financially elite. (Just venting again)



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JD70Jim

06-02-2001 06:42:14




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 Re: Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 21:33:23  
1> Hire a good lawyer

2> Bring the lawyer to your town meeting

3> Make frequent references to a "lawsuit" and the "Supreme Court"

4> Do a quick survey of who owns other "outdoor" collections around town. Concentrate on the "Chief of Police" and the "Mayor" if possible. Also include the members of the "City Council". Introduce your list of other "violators" in the meeting.



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Houndman

06-05-2001 18:58:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to JD70Jim, 06-02-2001 06:42:14  
This isn't a bad idea but I'm ahead of you. I had Army Reserves this past weekend so I wasn't able to look around town untill today. The cop has only been here for a year so he don't have squat and the mayor only has his house in the village limits and the rest of his land outside the limits so he has both angles covered.

Houndman



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Jerry \ LA

06-02-2001 05:07:04




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 Re: Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Houndman, 06-01-2001 21:33:23  
This really makes my blood boil, wish I could help. to be classified as an antique an item suposedly has to be 100 years old by most. That being the case there is no possible way the gas pump could be considered antiques, although they are collectibles. Automobiles are considered antiques at 25 years old. farm equipment???
Myself, I would weld up the most hedious heap of scrap I could find paint it hot pink and call it modern art!!! Luck

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Tim(nj)

06-02-2001 19:33:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How old are these mowers???? in reply to Jerry \ LA, 06-02-2001 05:07:04  
In New Jersey, 50 years old makes a tractor or other piece farm equipment antique (Hmmm, I have the makings of a working museum by that standard.)


The Farm Bureau and "right-to-farm" legislation has helped us fend off a lot of problems here lately, but in this particular situation, I don't think these laws would have been applicable.



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