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Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn

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agman

06-28-2001 07:27:04




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Is there any value an running 1/2 a handful of fine salt on top of each bale of alfalfa hay in the hay mow. I know it was done a lot years ago to aid in curing and drawing moisture out of the bale, but did it work?




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B.C.

07-01-2001 07:59:29




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  
Our neighbor up in Minn claimed it worked. One time I got in a hurry, put up some hay I shouldn't have and we tried it to no avail. We did wind up throwing it out, redrying it and then rebaling it.

The weather sort of forgave me but my horse-owning wife almost didn't.

Either get the stuff dry before you bale or let it lay.



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tim[in]

06-30-2001 15:45:37




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  
i have used salt and it did draw moisture out of hay. also nobody mentioned it but i loosen up the strings adjustment on the baler so they are not so tight. helps air to circulate too. a bale that cant breathe plus too much moisture is a sure recipe for a barn burner.



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Bill B

06-28-2001 19:37:11




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  
Hi, Salting hay works, I learned it from the Amish. I have a moisture meter ( hay should be 20% or less). Sometimes due to weather you bale things that are a little earlier than you want to. The next day when you check it , if its in the low 20's, stack it on edge and sprinkle salt on the top edge. You can save a lot of marginal hay doing this, especially if you live in a humid part of the country. Bill

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RayP(MI)

06-28-2001 17:55:19




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  
Be awfully careful not to put any damp or green hay inside. My brother in law got in a bit of a hurry a few years back, and his barn burned. Don't bale it green, wait till it is dry. If if got wet in the bale, we used to stack pairs of bales on end, tent style /\ to let the air get to as much surface as we could and let them dry completely before storing them.



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Steven M

06-28-2001 17:19:44




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  

DO NOT USE PRESERVATIVES, ON HAY YOU PLAN ON FEEDING TO HORSES



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Jim

06-29-2001 08:42:01




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 Re: Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to Steven M, 06-28-2001 17:19:44  
Can you justify your negative recommendation on usiing preservatives on hay intended for horses?



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Charlie

06-29-2001 12:20:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to Jim, 06-29-2001 08:42:01  
Now that it has been brought up I think I remember reading somewhere that preservatives are OK for cows but bad for horses. I'm not a horse person so I don't know if it makes them sick or something worse.



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Charlie

06-28-2001 16:45:59




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  
I'll give you my opinion on salting and everyone can tell me different if you want but if the hay is dry( and it needs to be dry to end up being good hay) then there is no need to add anything. If its damp I don't think salt can work before it starts to mold and alfalfa molds very easily if its not dry. I think salt is something that used to work in the loose hay days and doesn't do much for bales. The new preservatives are a much better alternative but you have to have an applicator on the baler to add them.

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Farmer-Gene

06-28-2001 14:35:51




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  
My dad always used to do that,seemed to help,never had any moldy hay, cows sure drank alot of water. Stack on edge with cut side up do not stack other bales on top of salted ones for a few days. We only did this with ones that were baled too tough, NEVER ones that were wet from rain those never went into the barn I was taught that slightly green hay won't burn but wet hay will.



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paul

06-28-2001 12:24:53




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 Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to agman, 06-28-2001 07:27:04  
Well, did it work? Hum. It probably takes a bad situation & turns it into a poor situation. Kind of like the difference between 100 gallons of sewage in your well, or 1 gallon of sewage in your well - it might be better, but not all that much.

They have acid kits now that spray on the hay as it's baled, or some folks use granular, which helps preserve higher moisture bales. If you plan on this happening a lot, might want to go that route. (See below thread on the salt preserver.)

What works for me is to take the wet bales, place them ON EDGE with an inch or 2 of space between each bale, only one high. Leave them like this for 4 days to a week, and much of the moisture will come out on it's own. Some salt on the top of the EDGE of the bale might help, but I've never bothered. This works when I get that one load that is too wet, but had to take it because 4 days of rain are forcast & the hay was down.....

In fact, a couple weeks ago I took a load up like that, 1/2 was way, way too wet, I stacked those as above, and they turned into ok bales. The other 1/2 of the load looked pretty dry, so I stacked it. Moldy now. Huh. Shoulda stacked it all on edge & apart for a few days. Live & learn. (This is one of those lessons I seem to need to relearn every few years. ;)

--->Paul

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Mike

06-29-2001 09:52:24




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 Re: Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to paul, 06-28-2001 12:24:53  
I was wondering about the wet hay burning, I'm not a farmer but a tractor enthusiest, and was just wondering how this was possible.



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Dave C

06-29-2001 10:19:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Salting Alfalfa Hay in Barn in reply to Mike, 06-29-2001 09:52:24  
If hay is baled wet it will start to decompose inside the bale. Did you ever rake up grass clippings after you mowed the lawn? If you left them in a pile and put your hand inside the pile the next day you'd find that it was HOT. Same thing with hay, except when hay bales are stacked inside the confines of a barn, all that heat builds up and they spontaneously ignite. Lots of barns were, and still are, lost this way. I've heard that the big round bales can even ignite out in the middle of a field due to their large mass.

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