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Doug

07-20-2001 06:32:13




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What is the best way to swath a square or rectangular field? I have seen some around here that looked like the operator ran swather in a clockwise spiral all the way to the middle of the field. Some looked like they went around outside of field a few times then went back and forth lifting the swather each time they reached the end of the field and then came back down the other way. Could it have anything to do with the type of swather being used?I'm just getting started and don't know much of anything at this point.

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Steve

07-22-2001 04:09:19




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
I am using a sickle bar...I make 4 passes around the outside then cut both sideways and up and down the length of the field till it gets small enough to cut just the longest run...The rows at the edge,as posted before, give you room to turn...I always take the outside row before I sell any...that is usually where your weeds are and seems to dry slower ....I have had no problem with a pittman or a belt drive sickle

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farmer boy

07-21-2001 13:35:05




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
USE A SICLE MOWER YOUR HAY OR OTHER CROPS WILL DRY FASTER AND GET A BELT DRIVEN NOT A PITMAN DRIVE YOU WILL JUST HAVE ALOT OF TROUBLE.



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3020MSS

07-20-2001 21:27:17




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
Hey or HAY as the case maybe...HA THis is my first year putting up my own hay with my own equipment. Been throwen bales for 20 some years with a 60/40 split. NOW its ALL MINE. I use a 1209 mower/condi pulled by my 3020. Makes a nice package. Ive been cuttiing about 4 acres at a time just so I can keep ahead of the rain weve had. I cut one row all the way around the outside edge with swather toward outside fence etc. then turn around and cut the other way usually leaving square type circles then the last few rows i have to turn around and cut the middle out. Worked rather well. By the way Im having A BLAST. Its great fun. And the best part is after its all picked up and your leaving the mowed field looking back and seeing the short clean field left behind. Have Fun and good LUCK.

Scott

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Paul

07-23-2001 11:32:06




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 Re: Re: best way to swath hay in reply to 3020MSS, 07-20-2001 21:27:17  
I always cut clockwise around the field and trim counterclockwise against the fences when all else is cut. It seems I have a penchant for getting into fence posts and wrecking my sickle, so at least most of the cutting is done before I crash. My fields are all shaped like a soupbone so I don't know what the flatlanders do.



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ksmith

07-20-2001 20:47:10




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
I used a swather for hay this year for the first time ... never done hay before either. I cut four rounds around the field and then did the rest back and forth. It also gave me a chance to look at my work when I lifted the cutter and made the turns at the end also gave me a chance to evaluate the next area to be cut (Groundhog holes and stuff). Now I'm baling and with the outside rounds gone I have lots of room for manouvering the baler without wrecking windrows. I had to rake part of the field and this arrangement made for some messy spots as my rake didn't lift. Rounds would have been better for this, but I wasn't planning on raking. Have fun. I found the swathing using a self propelled swather pretty mentally challenging the first time with so much going on and many controls. I also chickened out and cut pretty high so I had less worries about rocks and stuff in an unfamiliar field. Hope this helps.

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Tim(nj)

07-20-2001 19:37:16




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
Well, I don't know about where you live, but most people around here have bale throwers on their balers, and by doing the outside few rounds in a circle and then going back and forth in the middle, picking up at the ends, the number of turns on which the bales can miss the wagon is minimized.



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Farmer-Gene

07-20-2001 13:13:04




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
I always cut an even number of rounds around the field usually 6, that way if I want to rake two windrows together it comes out even. Then depending on the size of the field,[I don't like to do alot of traveling across the ends empty] I'll split it down the middle and just cut straight up and down lifting at the ends. If you cut round and round it's kinda hard on the pto univ joints of the mower and baler because of the corners. hope this helps

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paul

07-20-2001 12:59:56




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
I tend to prefer doing small odd shaped fields round in a circle, and nice big rectangular ones by making 3-4 rounds, and then go back & forth. Either works, and whatever you prefer.

On the small odd fields I find it doesn't pay to drive empty to try to straighten out the fields. Just get it done.

On the rectangular, I actually often cut, dry, & bale the outside couple rounds, use it to feed the cattle as hay. Then just go back & forth with the swather. Sometimes on windy days it is better to be on one side or the other combining, keeps the straw off the windrows.

What equipment do you have, if a pull-type swather then you will be doing circles. If a pull-type combine, it is hard to handle the square corners a self-propelled swather makes, but you need to leave room for the tractor to drive so you will need to plan accordingly, don't want to just go back & forth. (While the tractor can straddle a swath, it's not the best way to go...)

--->Paul

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Grove r

07-20-2001 07:15:39




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 Re: best way to swath hay in reply to Doug, 07-20-2001 06:32:13  
Hi, Doug, wellcome, you have come to the right place for info, these folks here are super! A lot of things dictate how you do your farm work, the first being; how do YOU want to do it, what do YOU think is the best way. The way you discribe how others are cutting thier hay could very well be their own decision, not saying that there is not an underlying reason, like, was the hay blown down by wind? then it MIGHT be best to cut it into the direction the wind came from, so the cutter head lifts the down crop a little before cutting, or maybe the slope of the ground is such that either up and down the incline is better than trying to follow the contour. People cutting Canola in this country sometimes cut so the swathes are aligned with the prevailing wind, looks rather odd to see a whole field [50/60/100 acres] all cut on the diagnal. Sometimes on a very small field or/and odd size, cutting one way might be the answer, lots of variables, even the type of equipment you have can make a difference in how you procede, as in, how short will the tractor turn, and how easy, will the type of cutter you are using let you turn short? On pointy fields this becomes an issue, if you don't want to drive needlessly over the already cut hay. Also, working towards making it easyer for the next implemnt, ie rake/baler, I never eject a big round bale on a corner, need the extra room for the next round. Certainly do not want to discourage you, all this, just makes it more interesting, AND, above all, I, do NOT, have all the answers, just do what you think best, and as you have already done, ask questions! Hope you will enjoy your new venture, R.E.L.

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