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Haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mower's

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Greaseman

07-21-2001 15:42:27




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I am looking for a hay bailer to use behind a Ferguson TO-30. What size do I need (6', etc.), I will be using on a hilly area.
Also, Which is better; a sickle bar mower conditioner or a disc bine cutter?




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Greaseman

07-23-2001 08:58:46




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 Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mower's in reply to Greaseman, 07-21-2001 15:42:27  
Thankyou each and everyone of you for your thought's. I am still not certain of what I'm going to do. But, Thankyou all again.



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HARRY FARRIS

04-25-2006 20:51:38




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 Re: Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mow in reply to Greaseman, 07-23-2001 08:58:46  

i am looking for amanual on 10Lmassey ferguson square hay bailer.



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HARRY FARRIS

04-25-2006 20:35:31




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 Re: Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mow in reply to Greaseman, 07-23-2001 08:58:46  
MASSEY FERGUSON 10L HAY BAILER MANUAL



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Big Jim

07-23-2001 06:36:17




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 Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mower's in reply to Greaseman, 07-21-2001 15:42:27  
I agree with the others. A TO-30 isn't much of a tractor for any kind of serious farm work. I almost killed myself years ago on one of those little toy tractors (I think it was an 8N Ford). I was hauling a wagon loaded with square bales going down a hill. The wagon kept pushing the tractor faster and faster and I couldn't stop it even with the brakes applied. The problem is not necessarily the HP, but the lack of weight. Most square balers will weigh as much or more than your tractor. This puts you in a potentialy dangerous situation. Do yourself a favor and get a decent sized tractor with live PTO. Just my two cents worth.

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paul

07-22-2001 20:05:42




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 Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mower's in reply to Greaseman, 07-21-2001 15:42:27  
What do you mean by 6 foot when refering to a baler? Are you thinking of a round baler?

You can get by with a JD 14T or NH 69 small square baler, but your tractor is not the best for it.

I don't know if you could pull a 7' mower-conditioner, forget looking at a 9'. You would be better off with a sickle mower for the tractor. I have a 9' mo-co, and my 50 hp tractor can manage it, but I prefer putting a bigger one on it. As they say, in addition to the power needed, these things need the weight to control them too.

--->Paul

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Tom A

07-22-2001 04:37:48




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 Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mower's in reply to Greaseman, 07-21-2001 15:42:27  
Grease:

forgive my ignorance, but is the TO 30 roughly equivalent to an 8N? If so, it'll handle a small baler, but the hills are potential killers. I run a MF 10 PTO driven baler with my 8N...have a few level acres but most is hills. The problem is that the baler weighs more than the tractor, so if the ground is damp at all, you can slide going down hill and won't stop till you get to the bottom, which is always exciting.

If your tractor is 8N sized, shoot me an email and I'll tell you what I use. It is NOT a great setup for a 'real' farmer, but it lets me get in enough hay on my own for my goats and sheep with some to spare for selling (just a few tons a years.)

Tom

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RMD

07-21-2001 20:58:13




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 Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mower's in reply to Greaseman, 07-21-2001 15:42:27  
I don't think you want to try running a PTO baler off a TO-30; or a mower-conditioner or disc-bine either. Unless you've put a V-8 under the hood, you don't have the necessary horsepower. A sickle bar would be OK on a TO-30. Back when I was a kid and TO-30's were a fairly current model, the only balers I ever saw behind a T0-30 were balers with their own engines (ususally a 4 cylinder Wisconsin engine). I can remember my uncle baling that way back when the T0-30 was his "big" tractor (compared to the 9N). The PTO baler didn't come along until there was an 70 HP Oliver 1800 to run it.

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Ken McWilliams

07-21-2001 19:09:52




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 Re: haybailer size also, sikle bar or disk mower's in reply to Greaseman, 07-21-2001 15:42:27  
Greaseman,

I think the TO-30 won't be a good fit for a baler because it doesn't have live PTO. When the baler gets loaded you usually stop the tractor and let the baler catch up. With non-live PTO you have to quickly put the transmission in neutral and then let the baler run for a little bit. When the baler is loaded you can't stop the tractor and move to neutral fast enough without stopping the baler, then you've lost your inertia.

Ken McWilliams

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