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Bought New Idea crimper at auction today!

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Ken McWilliams

07-21-2001 19:38:05




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I posted earlier this week about trying to quicken the drying time on my small patch of hay. I went to an auction today and bought a 7 foot New Idea crimper for $31. The PTO end was missing that has the u-joint and spline that attaches to the the tractor, but I can borrow one that fits it from from another one of my implements.

Hauled it home and found a bearing on the rubber roller a bit rough. I built a dam between the roller and bearing housing and saturated it with lubricant. The chain was rusty and was routed around the sprokets wrong.

In about 3 hours, I had it running off the PTO of the tractor checking it out. I closely watched the rough bearing and it didn't get hot and it quieted down. Apparently, the lubrication worked.

There 2-3 chevron ribs on the steel roller that have bulges which will have to be cleaned under them, and rewelded to the roller. Other than that it seemed to run OK.

Well, I just put away the 2nd cutting, so I'll have to wait about 6 weeks to see if it does what I want. The daylight will be significantly shorter and hay will need all the help it can get to dry.

Question: I assume the chevron roller picks up the cut hay and drives it between the rollers and throws it out the back. What height does it need to be for good pick up? The tires are currently holding the chevron roller about 6" off the ground using the adjustable stop. It has no lift cylinder on it which doesn't matter because it will just go from the barnyard to the field.

There was also an Avco/NI cut-ditioner there. I looked under it to see how it operates - It's just a big flail mower with flat blades. It looked to be in working condition, but the sheet metal had a lot of rusty holes in it and had no cylinder to raise it up or spacer to hold it up. There wasn't a loader tractor there to lift it on my trailer, and the tires weren't good enough to pull it 70 miles home - even if I could block it up for transporting. I let it pass @ $400.

Next time, maybe.

Ken McWilliams
Dayton, OH

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Big Jim

07-23-2001 06:23:07




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 Re: Bought New Idea crimper at auction today! in reply to Ken McWilliams, 07-21-2001 19:38:05  
You made a good decision passing up the New Idea Cut-ditioner. My neighbor has one. It has a 7' cut and takes more power to run than a regular 9' haybine. I borrowed it a couple of times when my haybine was broke down. They cut real ragged but will cut through just about anything. Unless you have a lot of big rocks and stumps in your hay fields, you're better off with a regular haybine.



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RAW in IA

07-22-2001 14:22:36




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 Re: Bought New Idea crimper at auction today! in reply to Ken McWilliams, 07-21-2001 19:38:05  
Dd had one of those crimpers in the 60's, and it worked great. Never could plug it, unlike some of the crushers he tried out first. I think the bottom rollshould be a ittle closer to the ground, but do not rmember how close. When we first got the crimper, we used a Farmall C to mow, and followed about 1 round behind the mower with the crimper and another tractor. Later, dad got a mower forthe fat hitchon the 350 and hoked the crimper behind it. Did a good job and we never had any toruble with it. Ours had a crank jack instead of a hyd. cylinder tolift it. If it picks up the hay the way it is, leave it there. Good luck.

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TomH

07-22-2001 05:33:39




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 Re: Bought New Idea crimper at auction today! in reply to Ken McWilliams, 07-21-2001 19:38:05  
More toys is always a good thing. I recall earlier posts about conditioners saying they work best if you use them as soon as possible after you mow, and they break shear bolts a lot. Carry a supply of them and the wrenches needed. Have fun.



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Harold Hubbard

07-24-2001 04:25:31




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 Re: Re: Bought New Idea crimper at auction today! in reply to TomH, 07-22-2001 05:33:39  
Right! Carry plenty of shear bolts and a sharp knife. Run the bottom roll as high as you can and still pick up the hay. Run the crimper in the same direction that you mowed. Most of the trouble I ever had with a crimper was caused by pulling hay in from the side of the machine, where the next swath didn't lie evenly. The point swaths in the middle of the piece are always the worst. If you have power enough, they will suk up a pretty big wad, as long as it goes straight through the center of the machine. If the machine has a slip clutch as well as a shear bolt, make sure the clutch will actually slip. I twisted the input shaft right off our JD the first time I ran it with the Farmall M, instead of the Super C. The C would just stall when it plugged, M's don't stall as easily.

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James

07-24-2001 11:38:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Bought New Idea crimper at auction today! in reply to Harold Hubbard, 07-24-2001 04:25:31  
Do you have a john deere crimper? We have one but is it worth fixing up to use? Ours is a #1 hay conditioner but it needs a new bearin thanks for any advice



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Harold Hubbard

07-28-2001 20:41:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bought New Idea crimper at auction today! in reply to James, 07-24-2001 11:38:35  
Sorry I didn't get back sooner, 2300 bales this week. I used a JD #31 crimper for many years but the gearbox finally fell apart, then I went to a NH 404, then finally to a mower-conditioner. I liked the NH better than the JD, it seemed to take less power and not plug as much. Depending on what bearing your machine needs, it may or may not be worth fixing. If it's a generic bearing, available anywhere it probably won't cost too much, but the big expense could be installation if you aren't doing it yourself.

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