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T Webb

07-27-2001 23:40:49




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"Can someone give me the 'pros' and 'con's of using creosote versus sump oil for treating wooden fence posts?"

Firstly, I know the above question may not be appropriate for this forum. However, I'm sure that many readers and contributors to this forum have treated wooden fence posts and could make valuable comment.

Secondly, I would welcome input as to which forum (what URL or link) this type question would be appropriate.

Thirdly, hope I didn't step on anyones toes.

Thanks

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Lyle

07-29-2001 20:13:44




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 Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to T Webb, 07-27-2001 23:40:49  
Since creosote is not legal any longer and they say oil is not good, Just get good Locust fence post. They will last for 20 or more years without being treated. Good Luck



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Ted Webb

07-30-2001 00:51:38




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 Re: Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to Lyle, 07-29-2001 20:13:44  
Thank you for the feedback. I'm a transplanted Texan living in Australia. I'm not sure, but I don't think Locust fensce posts are available here. Would you know of any Australian woods that would be comparable?

Cresote is available here and used (right or wrong) by a lot of people. What are your thoughts about the effectiveness of creosote?

Thanks,

Ted



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Burrhead

07-30-2001 09:48:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to Ted Webb, 07-30-2001 00:51:38  
There aint nuthin wrong with creosote use. You can't worry about folks not wanting you to use it on a fence post, besides that it aint their fence. It's the best thing and used motor oil is next best.

We can still get creosote here in SE Texas at this time, but it's too expensive to get enough to soak post with. It may be pulled out at anytime but it's available at least for now.

I have a 1000 gal fuel tank that was too rusty for fuel use so I split it in half long ways.

I laid it with the open side up and when I want to treat post I use 25% diesel fuel and 75% used engine oils to cover the post or poles I have stacked in it.

I let the post sit for a month or so submerged in the oil mix, then I pump the oil over into the other half of the tank on another pile of post.

Then as they drip I turn them every 2-3 weeks so they drip more off and use them off the pile as needed.

If you do something like that just remember to build a good weather proof cover so rain water can't get in it or it will float your oil out.


I don't know how long the pine post will last but I have some that are 15 years old now and still no water damage on them yet using just the oil/fuel mix.

When I can find cross ties I use them for corner post.

If yall have them cry baby yuppies down under that come over and bellyache about your creosote post just holler and I'll come down and keep them b***ards smoked off of you til you can get finished with the creosote.

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Ted Webb

08-01-2001 14:48:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to Burrhead, 07-30-2001 09:48:01  
Burrhead,

Last year you replied to a thread about fence row spraying with a PTO pump. I've responded to your reply with some questions about the set up. You probably weren't notified of my reply because of the age of the thread. Would you please check the archives for that reply or give me your e-mail address and I'll discuss it with you off the forum?

Thank you,

Ted Webb
Ft. Worth boy living in Australia

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I C Red

07-31-2001 13:07:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to Burrhead, 07-30-2001 09:48:01  
God Bless America !!! Land that I love !!!



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LarryG

07-31-2001 04:49:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to Burrhead, 07-30-2001 09:48:01  
Burrhead, I think that plume of dust catching up on you on the horizon is the EPA - they just want to stop by and say "hello" and nominate you "Environmentalist of the Month"



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paul

07-30-2001 08:23:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to Ted Webb, 07-30-2001 00:51:38  
It's a real good preservative. A bit hard on the enviornment, and there are cancer-causing concerns. But it is _the_ wood preservative if you can use it. A brush-on probably isn't as good as a long soak, or even more prefessional treatment...

--->Paul



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Johnny

07-28-2001 19:36:34




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 Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to T Webb, 07-27-2001 23:40:49  
Around these parts the county road crews rebuild the roads by dumping 18 wheeler loads of crude oil onto the road surface and mixing it in with sand and gravel. They have done this since the 1960's. I do dump my used oil on wood posts, but do it sparingly and it seems to somewhat preserve the wood. What else are you supposed to do with it, nobody takes it around here? Go to a walmart parking lot and look at all the used oil on the pavement, I would say a good 5 gallons are dripped out of cars every day! Johnny in E. Tx

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Fudd

07-28-2001 19:19:39




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 Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to T Webb, 07-27-2001 23:40:49  
You might try the Kountry life board to the left.



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Robert in W. Mi.

07-28-2001 18:39:09




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 Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to T Webb, 07-27-2001 23:40:49  
I just hate to see anyone dump used oil on/in the ground!! I hope you will consider getting cedar post, or pressure treat, that doesn't leach in to the water table like oil does. Robert



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paul

07-28-2001 14:04:43




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 Re: Help with locating discussion group. in reply to T Webb, 07-27-2001 23:40:49  
The livestock forum I liked quit; the other one at www.agriculture.com changed format to the point I do not post there any more. So this is as good as any place? :)

'They' say soaking in oil doesn't really help any, but I figure it takes a year or 2 for the oil to be displaced by water so it has to help a little for no cost.

'They' have made creosote illegal unless you are a railroad or hwy dept. So, unless you find some in the back shed, you can't really get the real thing. There are post treatments available tho, kinda spendy.

'They' say only pressure treated really does any good, surface applications or soaking doesn't add any life. I figure it adds a couple years, but what do I know?

Just picked up 24 RR ties for free, they are only 5-7 years old, those should last in the ground a while! :)

--->Paul

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