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9N steers hard with loader

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Ken

10-09-2001 15:14:38




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I just bought a good running Ford 9N tractor. It came with a Loader on it. I like the loader and want to keep it on the tractor but it steers hard. Has anyone ever invented a power assist or a power booster that can be installed to help make steering easier on this 9N? If not, is there anything that will help make it steer easier? I talked with the local Ford dealer and they said that none of the "N" tractors were designed to have loaders on them. People just added them on. Help.....

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Steve W

10-10-2001 07:52:59




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 Re: 9N steers hard with loader - Any suggestions? in reply to Ken, 10-09-2001 15:14:38  
The dealer is right, I think originally they weren't, but demand made a market. In short, the N's are lousy loader tractors, because they are light and don't have power steering. But they sure beat shoveling by hand! You will notice all kinds of loaders for sale for 500 to 1000 dollars...and that is why. Once people try them, they get tired of "Armstrong" steering, and sell them.

A good alternative for an N is a 3-point scoop. I use one to clean a horse barn, and I have a retaining wall that I park the spreader next to, so I can get close enough to dump. A loader would be better, but this works.

Good Luck
Steve

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Grove r

10-10-2001 08:49:56




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 Re: Re: 9N steers hard with loader - Any suggestions? in reply to Steve W, 10-10-2001 07:52:59  
Now here is a controversial suggestion; first a little background. Years ago I bought a secound hand WD9 for field work, notoriously hard steering, but this particular unit steered like a dream! could never figure it out 'till the paint started to deteriorate, noticed a slight bulge midway on the pitman arm, and another on the arm on top of the king pin where the drag link attaches. Someone had corrected an engineers mistake that has been built into other makes of tractors too, this fellow had shortened the pitman arm by app 2 1/2", and lengthened the arm on top of the kingpin app 2". now, istead of a mechanical "disadvantage", he turned it into a mechanical "advantage"!

Another instance; Bought a new S650G Satoh/loader, now if you want something impossible to steer.....The pitman arm from the steering box on this unit was a piece of flat stock, so I drilled another hole for the draglink atachment three inches from the first mounting hole, and re-attached the drag link, made all the difference in the world for steering. Same thing on my old 'Major!

The turning radius was affected slightly in each case, but nothing unacceptable. I don't recommend anyone doing this that isn't a qualified welder, and I don't suggest that this is the way to go with your tractor, just a thought.

In closing I must mention the David Brown tractors, and the problems owners here, had with the cast aluminium steering boxes. Being a pseudo mechanic for awhile at the local dealer, [late 60,s] we had occassion to replace numerous steering boxes that suffered failure due to the force created by the front wheels, multiplied through a pitman arm that was at least four inches too long. I have recently aquired a 950 DB, and this is a correction that I will surely make.

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Leroy

10-09-2001 19:04:19




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 Re: 9N steers hard with loader - Any suggestions? in reply to Ken, 10-09-2001 15:14:38  
That Ford dealer doesn't know what he is talking about about not being designed for a loader. They sold them at the time the tractor was sold. On the steering it will always be hard but dig into the front spindals and you will find the thrust bearings will be shot and probably the bushings as well.



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dan

10-09-2001 16:35:19




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 Re: 9N steers hard with loader - Any suggestions? in reply to Ken, 10-09-2001 15:14:38  
you could try carring some weight on the 3ph for a
counter balance



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lpc

10-09-2001 16:26:29




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 Re: 9N steers hard with loader - Any suggestions? in reply to Ken, 10-09-2001 15:14:38  
After just going through my steering gear and replacing the bearings and seeing how bad of shape the gears are, in I'd definitely recommend making sure there's lube there first. Can't help other than that. Mine were completly dry when I bought it.



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