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Stan in AL

11-23-2001 11:18:39

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Around here, everybody I see baling square bales just lets them fall to the ground, then loads them on the truck or trailer. I also hear that it's getting really hard to find help to haul hay. Does it take a bale kicker or something on the baler to shove the hay up a chute to a wagon pulled behind the baler? I know that you would have to be a little careful about raking, so that you don't have the baler turning lots of corners for it to work, but it seems to me that it could be worth the trouble to have 1 or 2 men on the wagon stacking the hay as it's baled, rather than having to come back with 4 or 5 guys to load it from the ground. Is there any other way to make square bales for the horse-owners without having to have so much manpower?
Thanks for any help.

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Thanks for the answers

11-26-2001 08:32:30

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Re: Baler/Loading Hay in reply to Stan in AL, 11-23-2001 11:18:39

Appreciate the help. I looked at web-sites showing the bale-handling equipment and such. I guess Al's answer was what I was looking for because I'm thinking about just a few acres of hay and it doesn't justify the expense of the bigger equipment. Son-in-law is cutting 8 or 10 acres of bermuda hay 2 to 4 times a year and having trouble getting enough help to take care of it. Seems to me it could be done by the tow-a-wagon method and save lots of labor. Just take some planning when raking, and a little more care when baling. Thanks a lot for the help.

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11-26-2001 06:39:38

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Re: Baler/Loading Hay in reply to Stan in AL, 11-23-2001 11:18:39

Way back when, many farmers where I grew up did tow a wagon behind the baler and the baler pushed the bales up a chute onto the wagon. The man on the wagon stacked the bales as they were made. It works good on level and fairly smooth ground. If you have enough wagons it helps, that way you don't have to stop and unload each time the wagon is full. Smaller and hilly fields can cause problems with turning, etc. Once bale kickers became popular, many framers converted their wagons to catch the bales inside high racks and then one man could do the baling.

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Harold Hubbard

11-24-2001 06:34:47

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Re: Baler/Loading Hay in reply to Stan in AL, 11-23-2001 11:18:39

At the very least you should use a bale buncher,(bale sled, accumulator). That saves one man driving the truck from bale to bale. If your ground is reasonably level and smooth, tow a wagon behind the baler with a chute, and have someone ride and stack. You might also be able to find one of the old "one-armed bandit" loaders, I don't know the brand. You tow this beside the wagon, and it picks up one bale at a time and throws it on, you can either stack them, or us a rack wagon and just let them fall in. You need really good tight bales to do this, it will break any loose or bent ones. There was also a similar loader that used a conveyer arrangement, this would be a little more gentle on the bales. The only place to find either of these machines is hidden out behind someone's barn or rusting away in an orchard. As far as I know they haven't been made for years.

Beyond this, the kickers and automatic wagons that have already been mentioned in other posts are the most modern and fastest methods,and of course the most expensive.

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Tim(nj)

11-23-2001 16:47:25

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Re: Baler/Loading Hay in reply to Stan in AL, 11-23-2001 11:18:39

You could go with a bale basket. EZ-Trail makes one, there are several other manufacturers. Basically, it looks like a big V-shaped hay feeder on wheels. A long chute hooks to the chute on the back of the baler, and the baler just pushes the bales up the chute as it goes along, and they fall into the basket. You get 100 or so bales into the ones I've seen. Then you tow the basket to the barn or shed, pull a rope, and the back of the 'v' opens, dumping the bales in a pile. You still have to stack, but it eliminates the field labor. Throwers seem to be the most popular where I live, because most of us are using elevators to run the bales into old haymows. Just throw them out the side door of the wagon onto the elevator. Those who have newer, large sheds tend to use the New Holland automatic wagons. NH does make one that can unload itself one bale at a time into an elevator.

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Johnny in E.Tx

11-23-2001 15:29:31

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Re: Baler/Loading Hay in reply to Stan in AL, 11-23-2001 11:18:39

The accumulators have been getting popular around here, looks like a good way to handle small squares, look up Netherex on the web and get some info.

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bbott

11-23-2001 15:25:12

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Re: Baler/Loading Hay in reply to Stan in AL, 11-23-2001 11:18:39

If you've got the money you buy or rent an autoloading bale wagon.

It picks the bales up right out of the field and automatically puts them into nice rectangular stacks of around 100 to 120 bales...(depending on model)

Then you use the self-unloader feature to put that nice stack down where you want it.

Some of the wagons have the ability to put the next load up on top of the first stack.

Bottom line is that you never touch a bale.

This system needs a modern clear-span barn to be able to offload and store much volume though..

I have an 'old fashioned' barn with a raised hayfloor so for me it's still hand bucking.

-- bb

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Gladys

02-16-2006 06:57:35

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Re: Re: Baler/Loading Hay in reply to bbott, 11-23-2001 15:25:12

looking for an autoloading baler could catch a euro bin 1100

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