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farmallmatt

12-29-2001 09:25:31




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I am considering upgrading from a sickle bar mower to something else. I have never used a hay bine or disc mower. How well does a hay bine work? I have a david brown 990 that I use for baling hay. Any thoughts will be appreciated.




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mike

08-10-2002 06:39:14




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  
i would like to see a picture of any new holland haybine



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JK-NY

01-01-2002 07:11:12




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  

I 'm sure you will like the haybine better than aa sicklebr mowing machine for haying.Other posts are correct, faster mowing time, faster drying of hay ,less plugging up, easier to make corners, you can raise it upto go around on the ends easier etc etc. . My neighbor has a disk bine he says you need about 70 or more hp so a 990 DB would nt run it.I use a 990 IH , it is an excellent machine and the older IH haybines usually go reasonable around here.also previously owned a NH 460, but I feel the 990 IH is a better machine. I have also put alot of hours on a 489 NH, they are a nice machine, but alot heavier than a 990 IH.

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dab

12-31-2001 09:44:13




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  
My dad bought a NH (474 or whatever came before it) in the late 70's and it was a fantastic machine. Replaced it with another NH474 in '83(4)? Prob cut upwards of 30,000 acres in its life and still running. We only use it for baleage now. Bought our first disc mower in '91 and have been using them for most of the hay ever since. We cut with the disc mower and immediately tedder ( cut 6 hrs, tedder 3). Hay is ready just as fast as the haybine. Like this system better because I can buy 2 new disc mowers and a new tedder for the price of a new discbine. We less daily repairs than with the haybine. I can change a full set of blades(for $36.00) in the discmower in less than an hour and may spend an hour getting a section out of the haybine, or 4 hrs to pull and sharpen a sickle. Last year only broke 3 blades out of the disc mower over 1200 acres and broke 3 sections and a guard on the haybine (guards at $10.00 each sections at $1.50 ea) in 10 acres.

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Steven@nd

12-30-2001 17:07:16




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  
I have a New Holland 114 habine. Decent machine, but has a few flaws - such as the high speed chain drive, if you don't keep it oiled it comes loose and flies off, bending everything up - also the rollers are only about 4 feet wide. NH 116 haybine is much better, gears run in oil and full width rollers.

I am trading up to a Hesston haybine, same as CaseIH.

Steven



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Wade

12-30-2001 15:37:12




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  
Mowed with a older 460 NH haybine for years and upgraded to a used 488 10 years back. Both mowers have served well. Neighbor bought a brand new JD haybine in the mid 70s and the gearbox kept vibrating loose. Even tried to reinforce the gearbox support and weld it in place - didn't last. Suggest staying away from the older JD haybines.



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Scott

12-30-2001 11:58:18




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  
You might try to find an IH or Case IH 1190. I owned one for several years and it did an excellent job. I've had 3 NH. They were not near as reliable. Here in Ky John Deere machines can be bought cheap but they are not very reliable.



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Roy B

12-29-2001 19:28:13




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  
Farmallmatt Once you have mowed hay with a haybine you will never want to go back to a sickle bar mowing machine. I use an old IH 990 and it will mow as fast as I dare drive through my rock infested fields. No more plugging at the corners or on that triangle that always seems to be left at the end. I have used a NH 472 it runs easier, smoother and cuts faster than my old IH. My next one will be a New Holland. Roy

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Wi Farmboy

01-15-2002 12:04:38




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 Re: Re: hay bines in reply to Roy B, 12-29-2001 19:28:13  
I use a New Holland 479 that I got at an auction for 400. I have spent about 300 dollars on new tin and sickle. It is a very reliable machine.



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Big Jim

12-31-2001 09:46:49




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 Re: Re: hay bines in reply to Roy B, 12-29-2001 19:28:13  
Roy,
You are right on the money. I used a sickle mower for years and would never go back to one after using a haybine. I was always plugging up with the mower and having to get on and off the tractor. The big advantage to a haybine (besides drying time) is that you can lift the haybine out of the already cut hay and you have a power driven reel to clear the hay through the machine. I also ran a 990 IH haybine for years, it cut real good, but had a lot more vibration and doesn't crimp the hay as well as the NH 489 I run now.

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john2510-3020

12-30-2001 09:40:22




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 Re: Re: hay bines in reply to Roy B, 12-29-2001 19:28:13  
oh roy you have an excellent machine! we have 2 of em except one is a 9' and one is a 7'. your right about mowing as fast as you want to too. we had a 489 nh haybine along with the 990 and we could out mow the 489 and it was newer! the 7' looks like new and the 9' looks like its been through h*ll but still mows like new. and the great thing about it is we didnt have to pay scrap price for either! email me some time so we can talk. what size of tractor you pull yours with? now on to farmallmatts questions. sice you only have a 990 DB i would go with a haybine, if you have a lot of land then a diskmower would be a better choice. fif you have a lot of small places i would go with a 7' but the 9' really cuts down time in big fields. since it looks like you like farmalls keep in the family get a ih 990. they can be had for pretty cheap too, and theres hardly any thing that goes wrong with em too. we have had nh's and jds and niether has held up as great as the 990's. i would never think of tradeimg my 990 in, in fear of not getting a machine near as good as it. if you know the field you can pretty much hit hi gear and go and not really have to worry about it plugging. once you step up to a haybine you will not ever want anything diffrent. it also cuts down on drying time to, because it crimps the hay so you could bale something you mowed yesterday(also depeds on weather but you understand what i mean right?) hope this helps and didnt mean to be so long winded.
john

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J.Simmons

12-30-2001 19:26:36




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 Re: Re: Re: hay bines in reply to john2510-3020, 12-30-2001 09:40:22  
I have two IH 990's I love them they are great. The best thing I like is the steel on rubber you can't were them out. I was wandering if ya'll know where you can find somone parting one out one.One of mine has a gear worn out . It the spocket that is on the reel . I can get it at the IH dealer but its over 200.00 that's just about more than I paid for it. Thanks for your help.keep buying RED!

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dan

12-29-2001 14:16:34




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 Re: hay bines in reply to farmallmatt, 12-29-2001 09:25:31  
in my opinion john deere and newholland make the
best haybines, newholland is considerably cheaper.
i have a 488 nh i use with a 990.



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jim

12-30-2001 15:15:37




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 Re: Re: hay bines in reply to dan, 12-29-2001 14:16:34  
I have a NH 379 purchased new in 1972 that has cut 60 - 70 acres yearly. Only replaced the sickle drive belt once , switched to bolt-on sections and replaced the guards when needed.
I have been told by even by competing companies that the 379 was probably the best that NH produced.



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