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Chisel Plows

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william

01-20-2002 03:13:07




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This is sort of a modern implement question, but this forum is as close as I know to get an answer. A lot of the serious farmers around here don't seem to use bottom plows anymore. They break up the ground with what I think is called a chisel plow before discing. They look like a cross between a super heavy cultvator and a subsoiler.
They don't hide the stubble the way a bottom plow does, but they seem to break it up pretty deep. Anyway, the questions. Have I got the name right? Load on the tractor wise how do they compare to a bottom plow? What are the advantages and drawbacks? What are we gonna do about all these geese?

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Thurlow

01-24-2002 14:40:39




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 Re: Chisel Plows in reply to william, 01-20-2002 03:13:07  
William, the Federal Gov't, (through the Farm Service Agency)..... used to be ASCS.....has effectally stopped the use of moldboard plows, except on land that is basically flat. This was done to stop the erosion that followed plowing due to there being no organic matter left on the surface. This involved all farmers who chose to participate in Gov't. programs; if you chose not to participate, you could pretty much farm any way you wanted. 'course, due the state of the farm economy, most farmers had to participate just to exist.

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paul

01-21-2002 16:34:53




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 Re: Chisel Plows in reply to william, 01-20-2002 03:13:07  
Here in heavy clay soils it takes 12 hp per shank, more if they are the wide twisted type or you add disc colters to cut the trash. Roughly you can pull a chisel twice as wide as a regular molbord plow with the same tractor - about.

Savings in fuel, erosion, time.

Some feel insects are worse the next year, ground won't warm/dry quite as quick in spring, you need a good field cultivator (newer, $$$$) to go through the trash next spring.

Here is is common to plow the cornstalks & chisel the bean stubble.

--->Paul

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David

01-20-2002 11:12:35




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 Re: Chisel Plows in reply to william, 01-20-2002 03:13:07  
William,we use one on about all our ground in the fall,breaks up the hard pan,lets the ground absorb more rain,also helps during dry weather,lets moisture come back up. Ground will not erode as bad compared to plowing. Have a 8 shank pull type,takes 130 hp to pull it good, David



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Scott (MO)

01-20-2002 05:06:29




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 Re: Chisel Plows in reply to william, 01-20-2002 03:13:07  
A moldboard plow goes down so far and turns the dirt over but it also creates a "hardpan" soil condition. The chisel plow goes a bit deeper (not a far as the subsoiler)and helps to alleviate the "hardpan" soil condition.It requires a bit of Horsepower (10 hp per shank) but it doesn't require as much as a sub-soiler. A disk is also a lot easier to pull over chiseled ground as compared to moldboard ground. I bought a New Idea chisel plow just yesterday.
Maybe some of these long time chiselers on YT can elaborate some more on the advantages and disadvantages. Hope this helped.

Scott

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Tim(nj)

01-21-2002 20:51:58




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 Re: Re: Chisel Plows in reply to Scott (MO), 01-20-2002 05:06:29  
Hey! Who you callin' a chiseler? :)

Where I am, in central western New Jersey, the soil is a heavy clay, and a 7-shank chisel will work a 90 HP tractor. Rule of thumb around here for a chisel is to pull it as deep as you can as fast as you can to do an effective job of breaking up the hard stuff.



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