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merl

03-06-2002 20:32:30




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Does anybody Know anything about the PT10 Hesston swather.And what they are worth thanks!!




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Rev

01-16-2004 18:09:26




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
The PT-10 was built in two models. The later is by far the best. The earlier models have a sickle drive similar to a tie-rod on a car's steering mechanism. These are the models to stay away from. The later have a drive with a yoke and u-joint, these are by far the better. The two plates that move the sickle have 60 degree bevels cut into them resembling a lug nut on a car. As long as these bolts are kept tight and guards and sickle are kept in good shape this machine will run forever. They have a tendency to take the seals out of the gearbox so check lube often. I have been cutting approximately 40 acres of hay with a PT-10 I purchased seven years ago for $400 US with minimal expense. I don't think it owes me anything!

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Kyle M.

07-15-2006 20:50:18




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 Re: Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to Rev, 01-16-2004 18:09:26  
I have the older model of the Hesston PT-10 swather, and have been having a terrable time keeping the sickle drive from breaking. Is it at all possible to upgrade to the later sickle drive design? How dose this design work?
Thanks, Kyle



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Tootie

07-18-2002 07:52:30




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
If you men wouldn't travel so fast you wouldn't have so much trouble with your machine I love my PT10 works well for me.



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Davidj

03-09-2002 19:05:24




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
I use a PT-10 and have had fairly good luck with it. They can't be pushed or they'll plug but mine cuts quite well. The others are right about the knife drive. On mine, the 2 plates that hold the knife and counterweight kept loosening and breaking bolts last summer. After talking myself out of welding everything into one piece I went to the local machinist and he drilled and put in "lynch"(??) pins to keep the nuts tight and no further problems (yet). The tension setup needs much to be desired as cables seem to break on mine regularly and its a nightmare to hook the cables to the springs. After 3rd strike I gave up and run with no tension. Works OK but plugs easier. I just care about "knockin' 'er down" when June 1 rolls around so its the cutting I'm after. I paid $500 Canadian which is about $300 American and wouldn't pay much more than that unless it was real pretty. I use a Fergie FE_35 which is plenty of power. As long as you know its limitations you can have good results. Good luck

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Davidj

03-09-2002 19:03:46




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
I use a PT-10 and have had fairly good luck with it. They can't be pushed or they'll plug but mine cuts quite well. The others are right about the knife drive. On mine, the 2 plates that hold the knife and counterweight kept loosening and breaking bolts last summer. After talking myself out of welding everything into one piece I went to the local machinist and he drilled and put in "lynch"(??) pins to keep the nuts tight and no further problems (yet). The tension setup needs much to be desired as cables seem to break on mine regularly and its a nightmare to hook the cables to the springs. After 3rd strike I gave up and run with no tension. Works OK but plugs easier. I just care about "knockin' 'er down" when June 1 rolls around so its the cutting I'm after. I paid $500 Canadian which is about $300 American and wouldn't pay much more than that unless it was real pretty. I use a Fergie FE_35 which is plenty of power. As long as you know its limitations you can have good results. Good luck

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mr j

06-15-2003 06:26:22




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 Re: Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to Davidj, 03-09-2002 19:03:46  
the cables on a case 555/ hesston pt10
are easy to put new cables on try the next size of clble I did you half to put a chane to it
and pull it with your tractor to get the tenchion you need and put cable clamps on the tenchion cable hope this works out for you
sincerly mr j



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JD70Jim

03-09-2002 11:54:44




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
Well,, not a whole lot would be MY guess as to the worth of a PT10. While I have never specifically HAD a PT10, what I had was a Case 555(same thing in different paint) and the Case 555 was a poor substitute for a real mower conditioner. As I recall they break down often and ours was a lot of trouble. It didn't do a good job when it was working right and it clogged frequently too! Don't buy one. Ever!

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Big Jim

03-08-2002 14:20:11




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
Good advice from Harold Hubbard. I used to have a PT-10 several years ago and I had constant problems with the knife drive also. Like Harold said I don't think the knife drive was built heavy enough. I have a New Holland haybine now and I sure wouldn't go back to a PT-10. For a $1000 you could probably get a 469 or 479 New Holland and you would have a lot better machine.



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BANJO

05-25-2005 17:43:53




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 Re: Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to Big Jim, 03-08-2002 14:20:11  
I HAVE BEEN USEING THE SAME PT10 FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS WITH VERY LITTLE TROUBLE. IT HAS CUT HUNDRENDS OF ACRES. THE KEY IS KEEPING IT MAINTAINED AND WELL GREASED. MORE THAN ONCE I HAVE PULLED IN WHERE A BRAND NEW NEWHOLLAND HAYBINE WOULD JUST PLUG UP. IF I COULD BUY A NEW ONE I WOULD. MINE WAS USED WHEN I GOT IT. I DON"T HAVE ANYTHING BUT GOOD ABOUT A PT10.



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Merl

03-08-2002 20:29:24




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 Re: Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to Big Jim, 03-08-2002 14:20:11  
Thanks for the information guys !!!



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Merl

03-08-2002 20:29:03




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 Re: Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to Big Jim, 03-08-2002 14:20:11  
Thanks for the information guys !!!



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A man

03-07-2002 20:33:33




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
junk JUNK
JUNK



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Doug

03-07-2002 13:35:30




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
Well, I guess I paid too much for mine last year when I paid $1000 for it. Saw one go at an auction a couple of months later for $1150. Both mine and the one I saw at auction were in good shape. Don't know if this helps or not.



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Harold Hubbard

03-07-2002 05:29:37




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
I have had a PT-10 and two PT-7's, they are the same thing except for width, something to remember if you need parts. These machines work well but the knife drive and knife head kind of fragile, and require constant attention. In my opinion the tires are not wide enough for the weight in soft ground, and there is no room for bigger ones.

If you are looking at a machine to buy, examine the knife drive very carefully. Look for signs of a serious explosion, and be sure the length adjustment on the pitman rod hasn't been welded. Sight down the length of the knife, if the machine has been abused in rough ground, the middle will be humped up, making the knife run hard, and putting more stress on the drive. Take a prybar and see if there is any looseness in the roll bearings, especially the one on the left hand side of the bottom roll, as this one gets pounded by the knife drive. Another place that wears is the pivot where the lift arm connects to the side of the header, more likely on the left side than the right. This can be cured by welding in a patch, and using a new bolt.

I would not pay more than $3-400 for a PT-10, there are a lot of newer machines available for $1000-1500, since many people are changing to disc mowers, at least around here. I am currently using a Hesston 1091, that I got last year for $1200. It is a much heavier machine, about 3500 lbs. something you should think about if you are using a light tractor.The PT-10 is about 1000 lbs. less. Most of the sickle mowers like these will run on 35-40 Horsepower, so tractor weight and brakes are the more important consideration especially on hilly terrain. The 1091 even pushes my Farmall M (6500 with loaded tires and wheelweights).

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Harold Hubbard

03-07-2002 05:28:41




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 Re: Hesston Swather PT10 in reply to merl, 03-06-2002 20:32:30  
I have had a PT-10 and two PT-7's, they are the same thing except for width, something to remember if you need parts. These machines work well but the knife drive and knife head kind of fragile, and require constant attention. In my opinion the tires are not wide enough for the weight in soft ground, and there is no room for bigger ones.

If you are looking at a machine to buy, examine the knife drive very carefully. Look for signs of a serious explosion, and be sure the length adjustment on the pitman rod hasn't been welded. Sight down the length of the knife, if the machine has been abused in rough ground, the middle will be humped up, making the knife run hard, and putting more stress on the drive. Take a prybar and see if there is any looseness in the roll bearings, especially the one on the left hand side of the bottom roll, as this one gets pounded by the knife drive. Another place that wears is the pivot where the lift arm connects to the side of the header, more likely on the left side than the right. This can be cured by welding in a patch, and using a new bolt.

I would not pay more than $3-400 for a PT-10, there are a lot of newer machines available for $1000-1500, since many people are changing to disc mowers, at least around here. I am currently using a Hesston 1091, that I got last year for $1200. It is a much heavier machine, about 3500 lbs. something you should think about if you are using a light tractor.The PT-10 is about 1000 lbs. less. Most of the sickle mowers like these will run on 35-40 Horsepower, so tractor weight and brakes are the more important consideration especially on hilly terrain. The 1091 even pushes my Farmall M (6500 with loaded tires and wheelweights).

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