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HG

04-28-2002 21:10:59




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I have an old belt driven hammer mill that I want to get up and running. Is there any way to convert this mill to run directly off of a 540 pto? I will be using a Ford 5000 that would accept a belt option but I have never seen one for sale anywere. Thanks




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David

04-30-2002 09:51:37




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
I made one using a gear box off of an 8 or 9n. Mounted it to an old 1 row cultivator frame, used and old pto shaft and made a short shaft to connect the gear box to the pto shaft. I have ran a hammer mill and an corn sheller for years with it. I have use it on a 3000 ford and a 4610.



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David

04-30-2002 09:49:27




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
I made one using a gear box off of an 8 or 9n. Mounted it to an old 1 row cultivator frame, used and old pto shaft and made a short shaft to connect the gear box to the pto shaft. I have ran a hammer mill and an corn sheller for years with it. I have use it on a 3000 ford and a 4610.



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Boomer

04-29-2002 18:51:45




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
HG, I can only tell you what I did to use mine to grind corn and wheat off the PTO of a Case VA and leave it up to you to decide what works best for you. I like to tinker with old farm machinery and I have a very complete shop, so when I was confronted with the same problem as you, I decided to use the rear axle from an old chevy, it needs to turn around 3 to 1 on the gear ratio. Remove the brake drums, linings and back plates. Open the differential, remove the spider gears and pitch'em, then weld the axle gear to the carrier housing, reinstall the spider shaft. Make sure you use the correct axle to turn your mill in the proper rotation! You only need to weld the one you use. Attach a universal and long pto shaft to the end of the axle hub and I'm using a 13 inch belt pulley splined to a front transmission shaft that is attached to the drive shaft yoke. I built a small 5 foot wide trailer using a mobile home tongue and axle to mount the mill on with the drive axle hanging underneath from half inch allthread. A short belt runs directly up from the 13 inch pulley to the 5 inch on the mill, I have angle iron sway bars on each end of the axle to counter torque but still allows the axle to be raised or lowered to adjust the belt tension. I fashioned a carrier bearing using a pilot bushing on the outside of the 13 inch pulley and it also has to be adjustable for heighth and to apply a little pressure to the pulley. The elevation of my mill from the ground using this arrangement puts the bottom of my cyclone just right for me. My mill is turning 2800 rpm with the old Case at a tractor PTO speed I'm comfortable with, It may be a couple hundred RPM slow but it grinds great, the pigs are happy with the result! and I'm happy not having to string out a long belt. Here is the usual word of caution! Although this is not difficult, Only YOU can determine your skills and ability and safe workmanship is essential on PTO driven equipment! This is not a project to be sloppy on! But if your up to it, go for it, It was a fun project. Happy Grindige, Boomer

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paul

04-29-2002 11:56:17




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
You can rig something up, sure.

It might cost a lot more than just buying a good old pto feed mill tho. They sell for well under $1000 these days, can find them for $200.

You will need to get the right speed to make yours work - some good suggestions here. The belt goes a lot faster than a pto shaft. You need to do the math to make the hammers spin at the same speed they did with the belt. Too fast & parts fly off, too slow & it won't grind anything, just bog down & plug.

--->Paul

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bob

04-29-2002 10:28:43




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
weused to haveone with tire and rim and power take off shaftcoupled to it. you could ajust tension by airpresure worked real god tho. run tire against pulley on mill bob



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bob

04-29-2002 10:28:18




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
weused to haveone with tire and rim and power take off shaftcoupled to it. you could ajust tension by airpresure worked real god tho. run tire against pulley on mill bob



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bob

04-29-2002 10:27:54




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
weused to haveone with tire and rim and power take off shaftcoupled to it. you could ajust tension by airpresure worked real god tho. run tire against pulley on mill bob



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Dave in Mo

04-29-2002 09:27:09




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
There are a lot of the right angle gearboxes out there that bolt onto the PTO and have a belt sheave. I'd try finding one of the those first. Maybe place an add in the classified on this magazine. I got one for a JD but it's not for sale although I've seen them at farm auctions.



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kraig WY

04-29-2002 07:41:42




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
I use a hammer mill for grinding corn. I thought about the same thing. There were post here about that you should research. The PTO wont turn the hammer mill fast enough. The belt and pulley system gets the thing going quite a bit faster then the 540 pto.



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John Ne.

04-28-2002 21:46:39




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 Re: Hammer mill Conversion in reply to HG, 04-28-2002 21:10:59  
I use to see several PTO driven hammer mills in my area, factory built, seem to remember a gearbox for speeding up the RPM, since the small livestock feeders are gone, these items disappeared into the scrap heaps pretty fast, but theres got to be some out there yet. John in Ne.



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