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Hay Equip Power Requirements

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Kenneth S.

05-13-2002 22:13:43

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I am thinking about possibly trading my L3450 Kubota up to a M4900 DT (4wd) tractor with 45 hp in order to do some small scale haying, etc. The tractor weighs about 4500 lbs with front weights.
Will this be enough power to run an NH 273 or similar pto baler? Also, what size mower or haybine could I run economically?

Thanks, Kenneth

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david

05-15-2002 09:49:53

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Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Kenneth S., 05-13-2002 22:13:43

Wouldn't be a bit afraid to pull anything except a disc mower, discbine, or round baler with 45 hp provied you're not going up and down steep hills.

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Robert in W. Mi.

05-14-2002 16:25:50

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Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Kenneth S., 05-13-2002 22:13:43

When i switched from my 45hp tractor to my 60hp tractor on my NH 273, i noticed that i started makeing a lot nicer looking bales. Maybe this isn't important to you? The 45hp tractor did just fine other than the exceptions noted in the other post about being too light on hills, and in wet spots. Robert

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Roy B

05-14-2002 10:24:39

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Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Kenneth S., 05-13-2002 22:13:43

Kenneth, No problem running the baler or up to a 9' sickle cut haybine. I think 45 hp is still a bit shy to run a diskbine. Good luck Roy

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Roy B

05-14-2002 10:23:42

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Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Kenneth S., 05-13-2002 22:13:43

Kenneth, No problem running the baler or up to a 9' sickle cut haybine. I think 45 hp is still a bit shy to run a diskbine. Good luck Roy

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05-14-2002 07:47:22

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Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Kenneth S., 05-13-2002 22:13:43

I've run plenty of balers with tractors in the 20 to 25 horsepower class, the big consideration is weight of the haywagons your going to pull and stopping power if your ground isn't level. I can't really advise on the haybine, but I'd guess the tractor you describe would handle a 9 footer OK.

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Paul

05-14-2002 10:57:15

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Re: Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to LH, 05-14-2002 07:47:22

LH, what kind of baler would you use with an 8n? Motor driven verses PTO. Have any models that impressed you for a small tractor?
Thank-you, Paul

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05-14-2002 19:25:27

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Re: Re: Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Paul, 05-14-2002 10:57:15

I'm partial to New Holland balers, best parts availability and they hold up well. I've never used a motor driven baler though to be honest, but I have amish neighbors who have both NH and IH balers which are motor driven. I can't recall the specific model no's right off hand. Also have used some old JD 14T balers and they were good. I had an IH 45 baler for a while and it was prety worn out when I bought it, but I hated that dang thing.

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Mike (WA)

05-15-2002 08:23:46

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to LH, 05-14-2002 19:25:27

Had an old friend with an IH 45 that he bought new in '48 or so, and baled hay for his dairy- so it had a lot of bales on it. By the early 80's, it had developed metal fatigue to the point that if it happened to flex while the needles were in their cycle, it would miss the knot. So he put a seat on the baler, and his wife rode the seat, watching the knotter- when it missed, she waved her hand, he stopped, and she manually tied the bale. Who said being a farm wife isn't fun?

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paul

05-15-2002 08:38:44

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Mike (WA), 05-15-2002 08:23:46

You know, if I suggested that.... The new baler would be a lot cheaper than the divorce settlement....

--->Paul

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jim

05-14-2002 17:39:07

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Re: Re: Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to Paul, 05-14-2002 10:57:15

Our neighbour baled for us for years with his Fergie TEA on an IH 45 baler. Those old 45's had a lot of back and forth motion caused by the plunger ,he never seemed to have any problems but then our land lies fairly level. An N should handle a small baler but use an over-running PTO. Our neighbour would have really appreciated one if it had been available all those many years ago.

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paul

05-15-2002 08:44:27

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to jim, 05-14-2002 17:39:07

I am only familiar with balers that have the over-running clutch built into the flywheel/pto already. But I'm mostly familiar with NH balers...

WOW if a baler didn't have a orc, that flywheel would run you into the next township at least!!!!!

--->Paul

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05-14-2002 19:30:11

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hay Equip Power Requirements in reply to jim, 05-14-2002 17:39:07

Thee plunger action you describe on the 45 is right on, and it still hurts my back just thinking about it. You could put the tractor in neutral with the baler going, and watch the tractor and baler rock back and forth a good 3 feet with each stroke of the plunger.

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