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Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . .

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ShepFL

05-20-2002 11:41:18




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Know of one sitting but DO NOT know what to inspect for. Turned flywheel and all seems to rotate. All the knotters are well oiled. Has 4 spools of black plastic twine in storage compartment.

Thinking of buying or hualing this one off for baling pine straw at my place. It is sitting on old farm that sold 1 yr. ago to make room for a housing development. All the farm buildings have been bulldozed and buried. Seems the bailer was left behind, plan to talk to dozer crew about bailer.

My experience with balers was always at the back end buckin' bales onto trucks and trailers. So I am seeking your expert advise. THANKS!

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Mike (WA)

05-21-2002 08:37:08




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 Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to ShepFL, 05-20-2002 11:41:18  
I agree with the other comments- the 336 is an excellent baler. If everything turns, and the knotters look clean, it's probably OK. The presence of plastic twine is also a good sign- when the knotters get old and loose, you have to either fix them or convert to sisal twine to get them to knot properly. Now... whats this about "pine straw"? Are we talking dry pine needles here? Why would you want to bale them, and what do you do with them? Us northern boys all want to know. . . even if the others are too shy to ask. . .

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Jerry D in NC

05-22-2002 06:34:49




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 Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Mike (WA), 05-21-2002 08:37:08  
The long leaf pine is a heavy producer of needles each year and they are used in the south for mulching shrubs and beds. A small bale runs about $5 and they get hard to find by mid summer. My understanding is that a well planted pine field will generate as much money from pine straw if harvested properly as the timber will bring. It makes a planted stand of timber produce income for the years it is growing. The numbers I have seen are something like $200 an acre per year clear. You have nothing but harvest costs, no planting and little maintenance each year. Planting the pines to accomodate is the secret from my research.

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ShepFL

05-22-2002 09:26:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-22-2002 06:34:49  
As usual Jerry is right on the $$$.
I am hoping I can something like raking pine needles to the bailer. This would become an additional source of revenue and help to replenish the tractor fund.

PS - Jer!
Betcha can't get pine straw from Agri-Supply!! Grins from here in FL :)
Best Regards,
ShepFL



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ShepFL

05-22-2002 09:26:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-22-2002 06:34:49  
As usual Jerry is right on the $$$.
I am hoping I can something like raking pine needles to the bailer. This would become an additional source of revenue and help to replenish the tractor fund.

PS - Jer!
Betcha can't get pine straw from Agri-Supply!! :)
Best Regards,
ShepFL



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Jerry D in NC

05-24-2002 11:39:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to ShepFL, 05-22-2002 09:26:05  
Shep,

I was almost afraid that you might have me on that one so I called and they told me they carried it but that the suppliers had run out. $4 a bale and she told me to call back to see if they were able to get anymore this summer.

LOL Nothing like Agri-Supply



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Mike (WA)

05-22-2002 08:31:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-22-2002 06:34:49  
Thanks, Jerry- Ya' learn something new every day on these boards.



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mike

05-21-2002 00:00:30




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 Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to ShepFL, 05-20-2002 11:41:18  
If you don't want it, I'll surely take it.
GET IT!!!!!



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gy3020

05-20-2002 19:46:15




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 Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to ShepFL, 05-20-2002 11:41:18  
I have a JD 346 which is the 336 big brother. I love it, well, after really learning how to run it. I was so used to round baling and to me it really is 2 different worlds. The 346 I have is a wire tie but I also had a 346 twine baler. I didnt really do that much with the twine baler and traded it and a New Holland wire in on the 346 wire, a good decesion. I would pick it up if possible, like was said before it woudl be a super trade in and I bet you could pick u p cheap.

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gy3020

05-20-2002 19:43:42




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 Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to ShepFL, 05-20-2002 11:41:18  
I have a JD 346 which is the 336 big brother. I love it, well, after really learning how to run it. I was so used to round baling and to me it really is 2 different worlds. The 346 I have is a wire tie but I also had a 346 twine baler. I didnt really do that much with the twine baler and traded it and a New Holland wire in on the 346 wire, a good decesion. I would pick it up if possible, like was said before it woudl be a super trade in and I bet you could pick u p cheap.

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Jerry D in NC

05-20-2002 12:04:21




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 Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to ShepFL, 05-20-2002 11:41:18  
GET IT!!!!! !!!!! !!!

336 is an excellent baler well supported that shares alot of parts with the balers made today. It is a good high capacity baler that will make a good bale and so it all day long.



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Jerry D in NC

05-20-2002 12:19:36




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 Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-20-2002 12:04:21  
After re-reading your post I am going to make another comment. The 336 was a wide throat baler that you will not be able to get down the rows of pine trees and bale. It will however probably get you a $3000-$4000 trade in on one of the in-line balers that allow the tractor to straddle the windrow and you could pull down between the rows. Its not that the 336 couldn't bale it. It is just that the baler was made for high capacity hay baling and it is made wide to allow a big windrow.

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ShepFL

05-20-2002 13:00:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-20-2002 12:19:36  
What if I raked the pine straw to it? I think I am already limited by rake width between pine rows. I have a 7' landscape rake I thought of considering raking the pine straw to a clear area and manual feed or figure something else out.

PS - how do you think that Oliver and JD will get along? Guess the 550 will be like using a donkey to break a colt to lead. Stubborn as all get out and go where I go!!! LOL !!

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Jerry D in NC

05-20-2002 13:26:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to ShepFL, 05-20-2002 13:00:57  
Well they are both Green and if the JD has been sitting out for long it will have oxidized enough to make them about the same shade LOL. The 550 is about 45-50 HP isn't it. If so then it will drive that baler fine especially if it is sitting still.

The raking problem could be an issue. How wide is the tree rows? This is something I want to look at myself as I may plant some pines and I would like to get them right to harvest the straw while growing the trees. You might be able to take one of these 4 wheel rakes and get it down to 2 or 3 wheels (I don't think a cutting torch offends you given some of your other projects) and rake both ways and get a decent windrow in the center. These 530 Ford balers like I have, have about all been destroyed in the pine woods baling because you can get them down to around 8-9 ft depending on the tractor and not open them up completely. It depends on how much straw you are doing and how much labor you have to give it. The 336 is a great baler and will do fine if you rake to it.

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ShepFL

05-22-2002 09:57:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-20-2002 13:26:11  
Jerry -
Got rows planted on various widths but no less than 7' so I could bushhog between the rows. Bushhogging and Garzon will reduce competition from other vegetation. The widest rows I have are set at 10'.

Have you planted pines before? I get my pines from the State and pay ~.10 cents per tree. I rent the planter from the State Forest Service. By virtue of the planted pines I can claim "Greenbelt" on my place which greatly reduces my annual tax liability.

Here in FL we plant them in Dec-Feb. I plant early as possible so the bare root seedlings can take advantage of any remaining rainfall. I plant Rust resistant large caliper slash pine. I have some stands that will be harvested as pulp wood (pecker poles). The majority of it will be harvested as "saw logs" or dimension lumber.

Check out the link for alot of good information on forestry, log harvest, saws, equipment, and forestry management. Drop me an email if I can be of any assistance.
ShepFL - still chuggin' in the weeds. . .

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ShepFL

05-22-2002 09:55:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-20-2002 13:26:11  
Jerry -
Got rows planted on various widths but no less than 7' so I could bushhog between the rows. Bushhogging and Garzon will reduce competition from other vegetation. The widest rows I have are set at 10'.

Have you planted pines before? I get my pines from the State and pay ~.10 cents per tree. I rent the planter from the State Forest Service. By virtue of the planted pines I can claim "Greenbelt" on my place which greatly reduces my annual tax liability.

Here in FL we plant them in Dec-Feb. I plant early as possible so the bare root seedlings can take advantage of any remaining rainfall. I plant Rust resistant large caliper slash pine. I have some stands that will be harvested as pulp wood (pecker poles). The majority of it will be harvested as "saw logs" or dimension lumber.

Check out the link for alot of good information on forestry, log harvest, saws, equipment, and forestry management. Drop me an email if I can be of any assistance.
ShepFL - still chuggin' in the weeds. . .

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ShepFL

05-20-2002 12:58:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Heard that JD 336 Balers are good . . . in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-20-2002 12:19:36  
What if I raked the pine straw to it? I think I am already limited by rake width between pine rows. I have a 7' landscape rake I thought of considering raking the pine straw to a clear area and manual feed or figure something else out.

PS - how do you think that Oliver and JD will get along? Guess the 550 will be like using a donkey to break a colt to lead. Stubborn as all get out and go where I go!!! LOL !!

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