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3 pt. trenching tool?

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Ultradog MN

06-03-2002 20:41:52




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I need to move several 30? yards of dirt that has been sitting piled up for several years. It has hundreds of small trees growing up in it and the back blade on the 2N just wont dig in through the roots and brambles etc to get a bite. I was thinking about building some sort of a trenching, gouging, ripping tool to break up the roots and compacted clay soil so that the back blade will move it. Kind of like a middle buster only not as wide and able to go deeper. Is there any kind of a trenching tool out there made to go on a 3 pt. that I could have a look at? I have a chunk of real heavy T iron that I could cut up to build it out of. Mostly I'd like to make it so it would dig itself down as you're pulling it but limit the depth with chains. Has anyone out there ever built or seen a trenching tool for an N?
It needs to be heavier and narrower than a middle buster. There's a lot of rocks and roots in the dirt that would break any kind of a land plow.
Any one have some ideas? photos? advice?
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

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Chuck, WA

06-05-2002 05:14:05




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 Re: 3 pt. trenching tool? in reply to Ultradog MN, 06-03-2002 20:41:52  
I was hoping to see somebody had home-built something since I've been thinking about that as well. In my case, it's wanting to cut some trenches for mostly water lines for underground sprinklers and also some 4" lines for some drain lines in clay soil that pretty free of rocks. I'd like to get down to a couple of feet (shallow frost line around here), even if in two or three passes. There's not enough work to justify buying a new tool, but too much to hand dig. I was toying with mounting a hunk of good size angle iron - 3" or 4" - on a 3-pt frame, on a slightly forward angle, with the corner towards the back, and the bottom end cut so as to provide something of a pair of points. I'd set depth using the 3-pt and draft control. The idea would be to have the angled "trough" bring the soil to the surface and let it fall to the sides. I'm a newbie at this stuff, and pretty naive, so don't know if it would work, but have been thinking about it. I'd pull it with my MF35 diesel. The fall back if I don't do something about it by the time I'm ready is to rent a ditch witch, but figured that if I could come up with something, it would be handy to have around. Still hoping somebody out there has tried something like that. However, it's a simple enough concept and would be handy enough to have around that I'd suspect that if it was practical, somebody would be selling one. A subsoiler would be OK, but wouldn't bring the soil out of the trench, and a middle buster wouldn't get deep enough and would be wider than I want. 4" is a good width because that would accommodate drain pipe or anything smaller. Any tinkers out there that have done this? Given my fairly soft and rock-free soil, any thoughts as to whether this is practical? I guess I don't want to put monery into it, plus time to assemble and in the first five feet have it turn into a pretzel.

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JMS/MN

06-04-2002 21:18:56




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 Re: 3 pt. trenching tool? in reply to Ultradog MN, 06-03-2002 20:41:52  
Hey Ultradog- good to hear you're still kicking. See my post above regarding using a chisel plow shank for a subsoiler. You could do the same on your loader bucket.



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Ultradog MN

06-04-2002 04:23:10




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 Re: 3 pt. trenching tool? in reply to Ultradog MN, 06-03-2002 20:41:52  
Thanks Jerry, LH
I posted the same question on the N board and One of our local heros Ed Gooding VA had some pics of a Dearborn subsoiler. I'm going to copy that to some extent.



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Jerry D in NC

06-04-2002 03:04:14




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 Re: 3 pt. trenching tool? in reply to Ultradog MN, 06-03-2002 20:41:52  
Have you thought about a subsoiler. You might even be lucky enough to be able to change the point to a subsoiler point on your middlebuster. Many of them can be. It will go down into the groun about 18 inchs and rip a 2" wide trench. If you have to get one they are also handy for laying pipe and wire.



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LH

06-03-2002 22:11:06




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 Re: 3 pt. trenching tool? in reply to Ultradog MN, 06-03-2002 20:41:52  
Have you considered a good box blade. They have teeth so you can adjust the depth of cut and just make several passes to get the job done. The N series fords don't have a lot of power for pulling any implement that would cut through very heavy roots.



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